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Ethically Challenged, Part Two:  Looking for Wulsin’s Silver Lining
Friday, September 15, 2006

Posted by The Dean of Cincinnati

Previously, I reported how Dr. Vic Wulsin’s so-called “literature review” on malariotherapy for the Heimlich Institute actually reads like a fundraising prospectus.  In this report—which she says got her fired after claiming that malariotherapy has no scientific validity—Wulsin attempts to make ethical claims.  However, what kind of a doctor makes ethical statements while promoting the advancement of research deemed vacant of validity?  Is Dr. Vic Wulsin ethically challenged?  Should ethically challenged candidates serve in public office?

If anyone has questions about how Wulsin addresses her role in malariotherapy experiments, just check out this video excerpt on YouTube.  She says the following:

So as an epidemiologist I was asked to study it [malariotherapy].  I did a literature review, and determined that there was not evidence to show that it was effective or helpful.  This was disappointing to Hank Heimlich who, of course, wanted to pursue it.  So, I gave my report, and my consultancy ended the next day.  And we remain respectful friends, but it’s not something that I think has any scientific validity.

So let’s recap—just in the interest of clarity:  Wulsin says (1) She determined there was no evidence to show that malariotherapy was effective or helpful, (2) Malariotherapy has no scientific validity.

In her report to the Heimlich Institute, Wulsin includes some statements which would seem—upon a cursory examination—to indicate that she wanted to do the right thing.  However, when compared with other excerpts from the same report, it appears Dr. Wulsin is ethically challenged.

She wrote:

V. Ethics

“First, do no harm,” is a fundamental sine qua non of medical training.  Not surprisingly, Immunotherapy has received sporadic, but not inconsequential, criticism from the medical establishment as well as others.  Institutional review boards (IRBs) at research establishments serve the purpose of protecting patients from over-zealous scientists who might, with the best possible intentions, nevertheless unnecessarily expose vulnerable and disempowered patients to risky and potentially life-damaging or life-shortening treatments, procedures, and interventions.  “Informed consent” from study subjects is a necessary but insufficient component of accepted clinical research.

The political atmosphere surrounding HIV/AIDS patients is particularly sensitive, in large part due to a) the terminal nature of the disease; b) the societally-censured major modes of
transmission (sex and injecting drug use); c) its higher prevalence among marginalized groups such as homosexuals, persons of color, Africans, and commercial sex workers; and d) controversy and the perception of inconsistent or inadequate measures to stop its spread.

Research in Third World countries, notably in Africa, has notoriously neglected sanctions from operational (usually local) and supporting/donor (often First World) institutions through IRB approval.  Given the discrepancy in standard of care between the First and Third Worlds, clinical trials should be conducted only with approval from both local and donor IRBs.

The proceeding paragraphs strike me as hypocritical indeed. The first study in China suffered from egregious ethical and regulatory lapses, among which were failure to obtain IRB review and approval, as well as failure to obtain informed consent. Wulsin demonstrates an awareness of the need to consider how best to protect vulnerable groups of subjects, as well as issues of marginalization involved in HIV and drug use. Yet she fails or refuses to pass judgment on the obvious: the majority of subjects in both Chinese studies were likely prisoners.

The articles in her literature review note that the most subjects contracted HIV through IV drug use; IV drug use is a crime in China, and HIV infected addicts are traditionally first identified upon being imprisoned. For more on this topic see: Locked Doors: The Human Rights of People Living with HIV/AIDS in China. Human Rights Watch. August, 2003.  Available here.

Notice that Wulsin never calls for experiments on any US citizens.  If she really were concerned about ethical medical practices, why not explore options here at home and not the third world?  But if Wulsin is ethically challenged, that would explain why she includes suggestions like this at the end of her report:

Programmatic Next Steps

1. Write a strategic plan for the Heimlich Institute.
2. Rename malariotherapy “Immunotherapy” ["IT"].
3. Verify and elaborate on East Africa Phase II trial.
4. Explore further collaborating with Michele Ashby, the Denver Gold Group, and/or the CEOs, medical directors, &/or others of appropriate mining companies.
5. Complete and publish review of Immunotherapy.

Despite giving lip service to the vulnerability of certain groups of research subjects, Wulsin proposes the Heimlich Institute pursue malariotherapy research for HIV with mine owners in South Africa. I can scarcely imagine a more vulnerable subject population than miners who are effectively indentured servants living in remote areas. Nowhere does Wulsin suggest malariotherapy be conducted on U.S. citizens. 

Elsewhere in her report, Wulsin concludes “The preponderance of evidence indicates that neither malaria nor Immunotherapy will cure HIV/AIDS,” and that data from both Chinese and African trials are “erratic.” So what should we make of her “Programmatic Next Steps”?

Renaming malariotherapy “immunotherapy” will not overcome its stigma, the absence of confirmatory data, or the unethical lapses in human subject protections; that Wulsin concludes the Heimlich Institute should do this suggests her complicity in an effort to conceal unethical research practices by obfuscation.

And what is going on with the reference to Michele Ashby, of the Denver Gold Group?  Wulsin purported to elaborate on the issues of research in developing nations and with subjects who are effectively “captives.” Why then would she suggest pursuing conditions highly conducive to unethical practices? 

Check out this excerpt from an article by Tom Francis in Radar Magazine:

In particular Heimlich targeted South African gold mines, which employ a large population of poor, AIDS-ravaged miners who live in prison camp–like conditions. Wulsin told me that over the last several years Heimlich has sought to convince South African gold mining companies of the merits of malariotherapy, in the hope that they would allow him to conduct clinical trials on the miners, many of whom are HIV-positive. Wulsin was to have a role in this effort. She says that in 2002 the gold mines sent doctors to visit Heimlich in Cincinnati to discuss the prospects for a study, but the talks eventually broke down over disagreements over who would pay for what. According to Wulsin, Michele Ashby—then the chief executive of Denver Gold Group, an international consortium of gold mines—was acting as a broker between Heimlich and the mines. Wulsin’s report notes that Heimlich spoke at the Mining Investment Forum in 2002, in Denver, where Ashby introduced him to “12 CEOs who operate in South Africa and other locations.” When I called to ask Ashby about her role in malariotherapy, she hung up on me.

While Francis goes on to claim that Wulsin’s report “proposes significant upgrades in safeguards, oversight, and accountability before moving forward,” he is simply quiet on the degree to which her proposals for upgrades contradict her plan for further research.  He does, however, note the following:  “Wulsin even suggests changing the name ‘malariotherapy’ to ‘immunotherapy,’ suggesting that the very treatment itself was tainted.” In an article about Henry Heimlich, it may have been out of Francis’ scope to take on Wulsin.  But that line signals a lack of internal consistency concerning Wulsin’s report—which The Cincinnati Beacon obtained from Dr. Robert Baratz, President of the National Council Against Health Fraud.

Here is another extensive quotation from the report.  Notice how Wulsin advocates for continued investigation into malariotherapy, though she states elsewhere that it doesn’t work.  What kind of senselessness is this?

IX. Conclusion

Immunotherapy: Past, Present, Future

Immunotherapy claims a fascinating history of effectiveness for another largely sexually transmitted epidemic.  Its safety was demonstrated over much of the twentieth century, precluding the necessity of Phase I clinical trials for replicating its use for HIV.  Phase II clinical trials have resulted in positive, though discrepant, results in 20 Chinese and 8 East African HIV-positive individuals.  Currently the Heimlich Institute has no formal association with either of these trials, although the sponsor of the East African work maintains contact with the Heimlich Institute and shares results regularly.  No written protocol is available for this innovative work in which patients acquire malaria naturally and are followed thereafter.

Further field studies of Immunotherapy, including Phase III and IV clinical trials, require the verification of the encouraging results from East Africa, elaboration on discrepancies between them and the results from the Phase II trial in China, and professional dissemination and transparent discussion with scientists, physicians, and other stakeholders.

The Heimlich Institute: Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats

A summary of the strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats ("SWOT") of the Heimlich Institute can open the door for a more detailed, relevant, and exhaustive analysis to guide its strategic, operational, and administrative plans.  The strengths of the Heimlich Institute center on Dr. Heimlich himself: his brilliance, his creativity, his passion, his reputation, and his development of the Heimlich Maneuver that has saved thousands, if not millions, of lives.  Dr. Heimlich does not shy away from controversy and has improved the world on account of his courage and persistence.  He has constructed a strong, independent Board of Directors and
established a working relationship with a multi-million-dollar non-profit institution, the Deaconess Associations Incorporated.

Looks like Wulsin is trying to ride the fence on this one—though such equivocation is the hallmark of a mediocre politician and not an ethical doctor.  In some places, she acknowledges the need for more institutional oversight and the fact that research indicates malariotherapy is not effective.  Then, she turns around, calling for more data and more collaboration with slave-like laborers in African gold mines.  And in the excerpt above, she shifts from advocating more elaboration on East African and Chinese data, to a glowing and gushing ego-stroke of her boss, Dr. Henry Heimlich.  (Remember, Wulsin hoped to take over as Heimlich’s successor to the Institute.)

These inconsistencies are troubling.  Dr. Vic Wulsin appears to be ethically challenged, flip-flopping from page to page in her report.  However, no matter the silver linings we can find along the way, the bottom line is that—at the end of her report—Wulsin advocated for more research concerning something she finds scientifically invalid, and she pushed to re-establish contact with gold mining companies that could provide access to third-world slave-like laborers.

And this is someone the Democrats herald as a progressive?  Looks like Wulsin isn’t the only ethically challenged person out there.

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Read ”Dr. Vic Wulsin:  Ethically Challenged?  Part I
Read ”Wulsin Pressured into Press Statement by The Cincinnati Beacon?  (Ethically Challenged, Part Three)


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  1. Freedom Fighter says:

    Snip, Snip, Snip .....

    Once again the Dean’s excerpts lead the reader to a different path than his bazaar conspiracy theories.

    Contrary to the Dean’s reporting or misguided interpretations, the current alleged excerpts reveal:

    the Heimlich Institute has no formal association with either of these trials, although the sponsor of the East African work maintains contact with the Heimlich Institute and shares results regularly.

    Gosh, that image of HI and Heimlich sticking a needle in all those poor folks with HIV/AIDS has quickly diminished as we NOW learn:

    Receiving reports is hardly the same as Dr. Immuno Kevorkian.

    The Dean fails to report that Heimlich has claimed “new findings” and the term immunotherapy, thus, more appropriate.

    As far as I’m concerned, this excerpted propaganda is enough to shed an unfavorable light upon the Dean’s mission based character assassination.

    My, My her work is amazing. Vic is certainly one of integrity.

    Keep it up Dean, the more you spoon feed the propaganda, the more you tighten the noose around the bias.

    No wonder he won’t provide the complete report.

    PATHETIC !

  2. komarek says:

    Dean,
    I have to digress a little before I make my point.

    To understand this report requires a sensitivity to the techniques used in medical research writing. Academic medical prose style would drive most business writing experts completely nuts. A strange, passive-voiced, non-direct mode is cultivated within the culture of medical research writing. Writers in the medical field seem to pride themselves on word-density and detachment.

    In a great example of this tendency to avoid making direct statements, Cause Communications, a public relations firm advising nonprofit agencies, suggests that the typical social service agency would likely use clinical jargon to transform Nike’s slogan “Just do it,” into “While an occasional disinclination to exercise is exhibited by all age cohorts, the likelihood of positive health outcomes makes even mildly strenuous physical activity all the more imperative.”

    So here’s the point:

    Wulsin’s paragraph,

    “Further field studies of Immunotherapy, including Phase III and IV clinical trials, require the verification of the encouraging results from East Africa, elaboration on discrepancies between them and the results from the Phase II trial in China, and professional dissemination and transparent discussion with scientists, physicians, and other stakeholders.”

    Actually means

    “You will probably never convince anyone to carry on this work, because it appears to be baseless.”

    In other words, she is saying that “the verification of the encouraging results from East Africa” – which means an investigation of what was previously reported, not new human trials – and “elaboration on discrepancies between them and the results from the Phase II trial in China” which means a studied explanation of why the East African results do not match the dismal Chinese results, not new trials --- and “professional dissemination and transparent discussion with scientists, physicians, and other stakeholders” – which means placing all the prior research on the record, making it subject to comment from the medical establishment and the press, public, human rights groups and others who have an interest in the issues – all of this is required BEFORE a single individual is subjected to this procedure again.

    This report was not good news for the proponents of this procedure. It was a statement that the Heimlich Institute needs to put on the brakes.

    This is the heart of the report. Although Wulsin does puff up the Heimlich Institute as well-intentioned, with a founder who is respected and who possesses name-recognition for past success, the report itself supports what Wulsin now says the report means, that the proposed therapy is not medically proven.

    --pk---

  3. All That Glitters says:

    According to Wulsin, Michele Ashby—then the chief executive of Denver Gold Group, an international consortium of gold mines—was acting as a broker between Heimlich and the mines. Wulsin’s report notes that Heimlich spoke at the Mining Investment Forum in 2002, in Denver, where Ashby introduced him to “12 CEOs who operate in South Africa and other locations.” When I called to ask Ashby about her role in malariotherapy, she hung up on me.

    She hung up on the reporter? Gee, Ms. Ashby sounds a little testy.

    Dean, when are you going to contact Michele Ashby? Sounds like a good Part III for your Wulsin series. Here’s her contact info.

    Hey Beacon readers, how about submitting some questions for the Dean to ask her?

  4. Another Loss says:

    Democrats should’ve picked Gabby!

  5. says:

    komarek:

    You have a nice argument about that one paragraph, on the one hand—but your apology does not account for her “Programmatic Next Steps,” which constitutes the conclusion of her report.

    That is the elephant around which she cannot maneuver.

  6. anon says:

    komarek: a founder who is respected and who possesses name-recognition

    Name recognition, obviously. Heimlich’s career was nothing if not self-promotion.

    But respected? Only you and Wulsin seem to share that conclusion. After getting a pass by open-mouthed lazy media for decades, Henry Heimlich’s career of fraud and quackery finally caught up with him in the past few years. Even the Heimlich maneuver is being phased out of Red Cross guidelines. Oops, I mean the Patrick maneuver. 

    This guy will go down in history as one of the great medical con artists. Wulsin looks like ass for getting involved with him.

  7. says:

    Hey FF, I’ll get that report online for you by this weekend, probably.

    In the meanwhile, please answer this question:

    Do you support malariotherapy/immunotherapy experiments on AIDS patients in the third world?

    A simply yes or no shall suffice.

  8. Freedom Fighter says:

    Do you support malariotherapy/immunotherapy experiments on AIDS patients in the third world?

    I’ll be glad to answer your question, as soon as you stop dodging all the questions posed to you which you chose to ignore because they don’t fit your conspiracy theory !

    See previous post :

    1.) Do you have evidence that HI injected individuals with malaria ?

    2.) Do you have evidence that HI infected individuals with malaria ?

    3.) Do you have evidence that HI has advocated injecting, infecting individuals with malaria ?

    4.) Do you have evidence that HI has done anything other than research the theory of malariotheropy ?

    5.) Do you consider the Chinese medical community, quacks ?

    Just because you make a new propaganda post, the readers still know when you have cut and run from logical objections to your character assassinations, period !

  9. says:

    1.) Do you have evidence that HI injected individuals with malaria ?

    Directly, as in Cincinnati people held the needles?  No.  Indirectly, as in worked and coordinated with the third world to get data?  Yes.

    2.) Do you have evidence that HI infected individuals with malaria ?

    Directly, as in Cincinnati people physically infected them?  No.  Indirectly, as in worked and coordinated with the third world to get data?  Yes.

    3.) Do you have evidence that HI has advocated injecting, infecting individuals with malaria ?

    Yes.

    4.) Do you have evidence that HI has done anything other than research the theory of malariotheropy ?

    I think so.

    5.) Do you consider the Chinese medical community, quacks ?

    On this point, yes.

  10. Freedom Fighter says:

    ( ans. 1&2 ) Directly, as in Cincinnati people held the needles? No. Indirectly, as in worked and coordinated with the third world to get data?  Yes.

    It would be my humble opinion:

    That you have not proven any coordinated efforts to get data.

    Getting data or requesting information is FAR from initiating, developing, conducting experiments, period !

    Requesting results of studies is not coordinating ! That being said, I have not seen evidence of either, period !

    ( ans. 3 ) I have not drawn that conclusion, nor have you proven that premise !

    ( ans. 4 ) I have not drawn that conclusion, nor have you proven that premise !

    ( ans. 5 ) I have not drawn that conclusion, nor have you proven that premise.

    Additionally, I have not seen any negative international professional peer review concerning their “new findings” studies !

    I also believe the medical, Red Cross, NATO, World Health Organizations has either failed to place as much importance on this issue or you are more interested in Wulsin, Heimlich character assassination ?

    I’ll side with the medical professionals and maintain an open mind.

    Now, with response to your question:

    Do you support malariotherapy/immunotherapy experiments on AIDS patients in the third world? A simply yes or no shall suffice.

    Your self absorbed arrogance is appalling !

    Yes, I fully support immunotheropy research and responsible experiments that would benefit HIV / AIDS patients as well as all other disease, period !

    Dean, you are of an age where you have been shielded from several disease and maintain a grandiose opinion of your journalistic contribution to this area. I would suggest, you are not so much obsessed with immunotherpy treatment, as you are with political character assassination. I am of the age, where as a youth our generation still feared small pox, polio, etc. I attended Sunday school with a girl who wore metal leg braces as a result of the effects of polio. Well, vaccination (injections) has virtually eliminated that affliction. Your generation was shielded from it’s effect. Smallpox was virtually wiped out of our society due to injection of immunotherapy.

    Immunotherapy may be our best hope to rid the world of HIV / AIDS and if I were at the edge of survival as a result of HIV / AIDS, I would not be adverse to immunotherby after careful evaluation of risk / benefit analysis for self and society.

    I would, certainly, be interested in the theory of malariotherapy with careful analysis and would be reluctant to discount any credible input from a medical doctor especially when compared to the input from a twenty-something want-a-be journalist !

    I have not reached a conclusion that research, participation in research or those who are driven for cure are somehow unethical for their participation.

    I would not be so quick to discount the Chinese medical community.

    Nor, have a drawn a conclusion that Vic Wulsin is anything other than a passionate, driven, professional with integrity and her desire to represent the public in the governing of the 2nd district of Ohio is admirable and our society would benefit from her dedication, period ! 

    Second note:

    If anyone ever finds me choking, feel free to administer the Heimlich maneuver !

    Once the Dean has demonstrated as much a contribution to society, I’ll place more credence in his rhetoric.

    Until then, I’ll place a preference in the decisions of Dr. Wulsin as she travels the world helping those less fortunate, period !

  11. Freedom Fighter says:

    Oops, I mean the Patrick maneuver.

    Oh yes, the Peter principle !

    Let us take , for sake of argument that Peter Heimlich claims that Patrick actually invented the choking maneuver, is fact ?

    Just because an individual markets a product, concept under a different name does not make them a fraud !

    The nation is riddled with investors, movie producers, inventors, software developers who have taken ideas (not their own) and injected marketing skills that made them not only famous, but, wealthy individuals.

    That does not mean they are frauds ?

    One clear example:

    The wealthiest man in the world Bill Gates. He did not invent DOS, but, he acquired the rights, injected marketing ( some have claimed with monopolistic methods ) and became well noted !

    Now, one could argue that the advent of the home computer with DOS operating system transformed the world ?

    However, one could also argue that the advent of the home computer has also become the most privacy invading instrument ever to plague mankind !

    For example:

    A consumer purchases a computer and yet does not have exclusive control of the data contained within.

    Massive marketing dollars are generated based on cookies !

    Our freedom of speech is now plagued with the inability to speak anonymous !

    Even if you utilize this blog and post anonymous, those in the know can not only find out what computer was used to produce the message, but, also where that computer was located when the message was generated. If it is in your home, those in the know, now know where you live.

    The point being;

    What is fraud ?

    What makes Deans generation OK with sacrificing privacy, and freedoms, but, want to raise a stink over a minority population of individuals and then neglect the effects that our current society has on every computer owner when computers are in, almost, every home.

    Orwell, is a reality !

    So, Dean, I’ll take a good shot of malaria before I’ll agree to the government or private enterprise enjoying the benefits while abusing freedoms.

    In my humble opinion. the computer, as now, is far more dangerous than anything else in the world !

    I don’t trust the potential for abuse, but, we have all relinquished vulnerabilities to one corporation; Microsoft !

    Are they a fraud ?

    Or did they take someone’s else invention, injected marketing, refined new findings, and we are willing to relinquish rights for potential benefits ?

    If you don’t think that is life threatening, think again !

  12. says:

    Freedom Fighter,

    Thank you.  You have just shown your true colors.

    Enough said.

  13. says:

    Clarification:

    What I mean is that, in order to protect your Democratic candidate, you have gone to extreme lengths to align yourself with quackery.

    CIRCARE opposes malariotherapy:
    http://www.circare.org/malariotherapy.htm

    BioEthicsWatch opposes malariotherapy:
    http://www.bioethicswatch.org/foia/malhiv.htm

    I like this quote from AHRP:
    http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/0403/17.php
    The controversial, unapproved experiment sought to find out if injecting malaria-infected blood into AIDS patients in China will cure AIDS. This speculative, high risk experiment was initiated by Dr. Henry Heimlich (of Heimlich maneuver fame). It has been criticized by the Center for Disease Control, the Food and Drug Administrating and has been characterized by scientists as a medical “atrocity.”

    How’s the World Health Organization for credibility?
    http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/01.05.05/heimlich-0501.html
    The Food and Drug Administration, Centers for Disease Control and World Health Organization have rejected the science outright.

  14. anon says:

    From World Health Orgnaization, Human Research Trials in Developing Countries, 2002:

    The Tuskegee study represented the horrific exploitation of a poor and vulnerable population under the name of research – and it was not the only case. In the early Twentieth century, research studies were carried out that fed live hepatitis B to mentally-challenged children, injected soldiers with LSD, and injected live cancer cells into elderly patients. The furor these studies caused in America led to the development of the Belmont Report, a set of guidelines for the ethical treatment of human subjects in research. The result? Rights and protection for research subjects within America…but it appears the ‘unethical’ studies were simply shifted to the developing world. In this context, American scientists experimented on the birth control pill with Mexican and Puerto Rican populations, and meningitis vaccines were tested on African children. Also in this context, Dr. Henry Heimlich conducted a study injecting live malarial parasites into HIV-positive patients in an attempt to cure AIDS. After U.S. ethics committees rejected the proposal for use on Americans, Dr. Heimlich simply moved his research to China, not affecting his American funding.

    The world community has not been blind to these exploitative research trials. The issue has been hotly debated and several documents have been drafted to provide ethical guidelines for those undertaking human research trials. One of these, the Declaration of Helsinki, drafted in 1975 and most recently updated in 2000 by the World Medical Association, outlines briefly the constraints under which human subject research should occur and acts as a general ethical guide. Studies clearly abusing vulnerable populations are nixed by institutional review boards (IRBs) – ethical review committees within each sponsoring research institution that must approve studies before they can be funded – thus eliminating all obviously misconceived trials. However, ambiguous cases do still occur and arguably unethical studies are being carried out on poor populations in developing countries at this very moment. HIV/AIDS trials in particular have been recently criticized by ethicists. The nature and fatality of this disease and the disproportionate caseload in developing countries where care is devastatingly inferior to that in developed countries, makes experimentation on patients harder to justify.

    Nevertheless, the extreme urgency of the need for new methods of care for the disease drives research swiftly forward, with hundreds of studies and trials being conducted all over the world. The majority of studies are held in developing countries, where populations suffering from the disease are large, transmission rates high and conditions ‘ideal’ to test new therapies or interventions. However, populations in developing countries – less educated, deprived of substantive health care - carry with them unique opportunities for exploitation by investigators whose studies are too controversial to be carried out on developed country populations.

  15. Roseanadana says:

    So FF is Chris Finney or Bob Kraft or our hero Phil Heimlich. No can’t be Philie--that means he is communicating with people!

  16. komarek says:

    Dean,

    Now let’s focus on what you can realistically claim about Wulsin:

    1. She never injected anyone with malaria.

    2. She said further human studies involving the practice were not justified.

    3. She did provide an outline—and a less scary word—to use if the practice was eventually determined safe enough to implement --but only after the positive outcomes in human testing that already took place were reviewed and, after public scrutiny, found not to be flukes.

    So what? This sounds pretty normal to me.

    Heimlich’s reputation is what it is. Wulsin focuses on “Dr. Heimlich himself: his brilliance, his creativity, his passion, his reputation, and his development of the Heimlich Maneuver that has saved thousands, if not millions, of lives.”

    Again, so what? If the essence of your criticism of Wulsin is that she thinks favorably --in a general way—of Dr. Heimlich, please just say that.

    With respect to the clinical practice she was asked to review, Wulsin said the right thing.

    --pk---

  17. Freedom Fighter says:

    What I mean is that, in order to protect your Democratic candidate, you have gone to extreme lengths to align yourself with quackery.

    Quite the contrary !

    If we were to believe your references, we would have to believe that HI designed the research, sold the Chinese and African nations to conduct studies within their boundaries and Heimlich was the inventor of the theory ?

    Based on all your reporting arguments, Heimlich is no inventor. He merely tales the ideas of others and markets them under his own name.

    So, my premise is that those nations and their medical community developed a theory, based on their knowledge and experimentation, and then advanced to clinical trials.

    Heimlich and HI merely asked to review the data of that study and may have jumped to false conclusions in promoting.

    Although, there may have been discrepicencies between the two nation’s studies demonstrating that the initial theory was invalid. There may also have been promising areas of similarities, which one would call “new findings”.

    Thus, if I were a doctor, researcher, etc. I would be interested in those “new findings” and would also admire Vic’s willingness to rid the world of HIV / AIDS.

    The problem with your analysis Dean, is that you are alone in the pasture “Knee deep in Cow Schmidt” !

    Now, if you happen to become infected with E. coli, you would run to Vic for a cure.

    I would have to follow the posting of:

    komarek says:
    15 Sep 2006 at 09:55 am | #

    When he claims Vic’s report stated :

    “You will probably never convince anyone to carry on this work, because it appears to be baseless.”

    In other words, she is saying that “the verification of the encouraging results from East Africa” – which means an investigation of what was previously reported, not new human trials – and “elaboration on discrepancies between them and the results from the Phase II trial in China” which means a studied explanation of why the East African results do not match the dismal Chinese results, not new trials --- and “professional dissemination and transparent discussion with scientists, physicians, and other stakeholders” – which means placing all the prior research on the record, making it subject to comment from the medical establishment and the press, public, human rights groups and others who have an interest in the issues – all of this is required BEFORE a single individual is subjected to this procedure again.

    This report was not good news for the proponents of this procedure. It was a statement that the Heimlich Institute needs to put on the brakes.

    This is the heart of the report. Although Wulsin does puff up the Heimlich Institute as well-intentioned, with a founder who is respected and who possesses name-recognition for past success, the report itself supports what Wulsin now says the report means, that the proposed therapy is not medically proven.

    I would not lead to the but, but, but, but conclusion of the Dean in his post:

    komarek:

    You have a nice argument about that one paragraph, on the one hand—but your apology does not account for her “Programmatic Next Steps,” which constitutes the conclusion of her report.

    That is the elephant around which she cannot maneuver.

    No, I would lead to the conclusion that Vic said what she claimed to have said and, because of that, give her the benefit of doubt !

    Although she could not find validity in the current direction of HI, she has more knowledge about the subject matter than a twenty-something want-a-be investigative journalist !

    In addition, she realizes the amount of work and effort that any research institution must hurdle to become first financially viable and then medically successful !

    I claim she saw a viability in the institution and the possibility that private funding for AIDS RESEARCH and “new findings” may point toward a positive direction for HI and HIV / AIDS research !

    Thus, the recommendation to rename research efforts and the recommendation of how to move forward in a positive, marketable, scientifically viable direction is admirable.

    Now, perhaps I’m bias with regard to the second district when anyone is better than mean jean, I do, however, believe I’m open minded and objective with the integrity of Vic Wulsin.

    Vic certainly is no dummy !

    As yet, I cant not say the same thing about Jason My Main Man (sp) A.K.A. the Dean of Cincinnati.

    One thing for sure, her work is not conducted behind a pseudo name and Wulsin is fully vulnerable when she places her name on the chopping block.

    For me, that is admirable, demonstrating integrity, and the country will be WELL represented after her victory in the 2nd district of OHIO.

    The public can decide who’s “true colors” are revealed !

  18. freedom Fighter says:

    The Dean of Cincinnati says:
    16 Sep 2006 at 06:18 am | #

    anon says:
    16 Sep 2006 at 07:16 am | #

    Is this the Dean, AKA sock puppet, AKA Jason My Main Man(sp) ?

    I challenge the Dean to reveal, to the public, the IP address of each post.

    The Dean knows the truth and so DO I ?

  19. says:

    komarek:

    She advocated for further explorations with Michele Ashby of the Denver Gold Group.

    Why?

    She wanted to conduct further research.  But she also says the idea has no validity.  Why research an idea with no validity?

    Anyway, we can stop this bickering soon.  We’ll have a doctor’s analysis of her report forthcoming, and then I will make the full report available for everyone.

  20. says:

    FF,

    Why do you want to see IP addresses for each post?  What will it prove?  And besides, if the results are not what you like, you will accuse me of fabricating everything.

  21. Freedom Fighter says:

    Why?

    She wanted to conduct further research.  But she also says the idea has no validity.  Why research an idea with no validity?

    “ NEW FINDINGS ”

    We’ll have a doctor’s analysis of her report forthcoming, and then I will make the full report available for everyone.

    Witch doctor ? The notorious dentist that enlightens us with information that, low and behold, there are weight loss programs out there that may not live up to their claims ?

    What happened to sock-puppet Dean whom anon touted the komarek: credentials ?

    Don’t like what komarek has to say when he exonerates Wulsin with his analysis:

    “You will probably never convince anyone to carry on this work, because it appears to be baseless.”

    In other words, she is saying that “the verification of the encouraging results from East Africa” – which means an investigation of what was previously reported, not new human trials – and “elaboration on discrepancies between them and the results from the Phase II trial in China” which means a studied explanation of why the East African results do not match the dismal Chinese results, not new trials --- and “professional dissemination and transparent discussion with scientists, physicians, and other stakeholders” – which means placing all the prior research on the record, making it subject to comment from the medical establishment and the press, public, human rights groups and others who have an interest in the issues – all of this is required BEFORE a single individual is subjected to this procedure again.

    This report was not good news for the proponents of this procedure. It was a statement that the Heimlich Institute needs to put on the brakes.

    This is the heart of the report. Although Wulsin does puff up the Heimlich Institute as well-intentioned, with a founder who is respected and who possesses name-recognition for past success, the report itself supports what Wulsin now says the report means, that the proposed therapy is not medically proven.

    Did you find a more favorable “quack chaser” attempting to build a name for themselves by sinking their teeth into successful doctors ?

    Why do you want to see IP addresses for each post?  What will it prove?  And besides, if the results are not what you like, you will accuse me of fabricating everything.

    Only if you had !

    The public can see the “true colors”

  22. freedom Fighter says:

    Jason H- - P, on two occasions you took the liberty to materially alter comments without the permission of the writer.

    While the writer mentioned Jason’s last name, the Dean took the liberty to snip and insert “My Main Man” twice.

    While you have every right to maintain your privacy, I do request that you modify the post to state:

    “Not my main man” or “in my humble opinion, My Main phony Man”

    Jason, in my humble opinion, My Main Phony Man - thank you in advance for your cooperation !

    Let the TRUE colors shine !

  23. says:

    I did not significantly alter anything.  My website technology comes with “word censoring.” I have the right to censor whatever word I want.  The word in question is automatically changed to “My Main Man.”

    Big deal.  There is no substance to that.  It is just a name.  This is not about names, but about medical ethics.  Call it what you will—malariotherapy or immunotherapy—this quack Heimlich idea which Wulsin supported is discredited by any name.

    Also, you still have not indicated what revealing IP information will confirm.  It will allow people to determine if someone connects to the internet using fuse, or aol, or some other service.  It may also tell if commenters are the same person, or different—unless the user goes through a proxy server (which can be as simple as visiting http://www.vtunnel.com ).

    FF, the story of your degredation on these Wulsin strands tells quite the story.  Keep it coming.  It makes you look absurd!

  24. Freedom Fighter says:

    The word in question is automatically changed to “My Main Man”

    For the record, the word in question is your last name which hardly equates to anyone’s “main man” !

    Even the most irresponsible, bias reporter utilizes their own name, however, I would be the first to fight for your right to speak anonymous. I truly didn’t think you had such sensitivity. I learned it from other posts.

    The only one looking absurd, is yourself !

    Komarek just confirmed your obsessed absurdity when he noted :

    komarek says:
    16 Sep 2006 at 10:18 am | #

    1. She never injected anyone with malaria.

    2. She said further human studies involving the practice were not justified.

    3. She did provide an outline—and a less scary word—to use if the practice was eventually determined safe enough to implement --but only after the positive outcomes in human testing that already took place were reviewed and, after public scrutiny, found not to be flukes.

    So what? This sounds pretty normal to me.

    Heimlich’s reputation is what it is. Wulsin focuses on “Dr. Heimlich himself: his brilliance, his creativity, his passion, his reputation, and his development of the Heimlich Maneuver that has saved thousands, if not millions, of lives.”

    Again, so what? If the essence of your criticism of Wulsin is that she thinks favorably --in a general way—of Dr. Heimlich, please just say that.

    With respect to the clinical practice she was asked to review, Wulsin said the right thing.

    Oh yes, typical pattern of a sock-puppet, when they don’t like the message, attack the messenger !

    Keep talking to yourself, you are the only one buying your propaganda !

    The public can see the “true colors”, so can komarek and so DO I !

  25. Freedom Fighter says:

    Also, you still have not indicated what revealing IP information will confirm

    I do not need you to reveal to me, I know !

    On the particular comments I noted, that information might interest the public !

    I know what it will reveal and so do you !

    Proxy server is nothing more than illusionary, but, hey believe what you wish !

  26. says:

    Proxy servers are illusionary?

    Huh?

    Go to whatismyipaddress.com

    Then go through vtunnel.

    They will be different…

  27. Freedom Fighter says:

    Proxy servers are illusionary?

    Huh?

    Go to whatismyipaddress.com

    Then go through vtunnel.

    They will be different…

    <b>Dean, you are easily sold on everything.

    Some have been around a lot longer than you. Some even remember “punch card” computing. Some have extensive programming, computer knowledge !

    Some have extensive pinging programs and know an illusion when they see one !

    But, hey:

    WHAT EVER !

  28. says:

    I’m with Dean on this one. I don’t understand what the IP address has to do with this topic. Knowing the IP adress is not going to make a difference....

  29. says:

    OK, master of illusions.

    What is my IP address.

    Is it 72.232.10.226,

    -or-

    is it 69.80.225.11

    Go ahead—click the links for some screen shots of my IP address.

    Let me see you ping your way out of that one!

  30. says:

    BTW, FF:

    Since you have become incomprehensible, I will no longer allow your comments to derail the conversation at hand.

    If you would like to ramble like this, feel free to do it in our Forums.

    I have made a special place for you.

    I will help you get started by copying and pasting your pointless comments to the forum for you, until you get the hang of this.  If you continue spamming me with pointless drivel (about things like IP address proxy conspiracies), you will be banned.

    It can’t be censorship if I give you your very own place to publish!

  31. anon: says:

    What is my IP address.

    Neither !

  32. says:

    Inducing a high fever via malaria with the purpose of killing nasty viruses, etc., sounds (and is) crude, but Dr. Julius Warner-Juaregg won the 1927 Nobel Prize for medicine for his technique of infecting people with malaria in order to kill spirochetes in people with late-stage syphilis.  This technique sometimes did work, and the risk was considered acceptable because Warner-Juaregg used a strain of malaria that could be cured with quinine.  Later, penicillin did a better job.

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