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Monday, June 23, 2008
Melva Gweyn’s email about “disabilities”
Posted by The Dean of Cincinnati
You won’t believe this one. Check out Councilmember Crowley’s reasonable response to Melva Gweyn when her merry band of bandits tried to stopped people with disabilities from getting rental assistance—and then check out Melva’s reply!
Crowley:
Thank you for writing regarding item # 200800710 which will be considered by City Council tonight. I wanted to point out that this item will solely benefit the Center for Independent Living Options who provide housing assistance for those with handicaps or other physical disabilities. While I recognize your concerns about rental assistance programs I wanted you to know that I do plan to support this needed funding to support those in our community who have physical disabilities.
David
Melva Gweyn:
Thank you for your reply.
Our city is sinking under the weight of all the nice sounding programs and people/politicians that are diabolically supporting, hiding behind and promoting all kinds of problems and getting rich doing so.
“Disability” that is more group homes for drug addicts, prostitutes, drunks, mentally ill, sexual deviates, responsibility or civilized challenged? Blending them among our elderly or perhaps “green” to justify the expense?
It is just a way to resurrect and refinance the non transparency/accountability that Hamilton County “Redevelopment"(in a truthful world, neighborhood destruction) so arrogantly enjoyed before? It is POLITICAL expediency we are rewarding them for their past efforts so they can target our city again with what their neighbors nor they want, and get well compensated doing so? These bleeding heart, crocodile tear supporters reside far from what they impose on us and feel no conscious making an undeserved living off the problems they deposit on us?
Perhaps just my cold heart or the overwhelming crap we are dealing with but I just do not feel an obligation to provide Community Development the opportunity to impose their “nonprofit” “understanding” or listen to politicians extolling their humanitarian efforts all paid for by the very people they repress, the average taxpayer? It is time for altruist to come down from their “higher” plane, close down shop and answer a reality call to get a job on the open market. Sure its more in keeping with their higher elevation to have the opportunity to continue calling average working taxpayers “meanies” at cocktail conventions all over the country paid for by the same taxpayers. The party is old and forty years of party have taken a toll.
Thank you very much for your concern but we have a gracious plenty of these problems we deal with 24 hours a day and DO NOT NEED any more. What’s your address are you taking them next door to you? Got some high minded over-compensated friends in search of hands on mission work? Maybe we can help you find fulfillment.
Melva Gweyn
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23 Jun 2008 at 11:38 am | #
I don’t know this woman in person, but let me guess, a born again christian fighting the world of sin, fernication ( said sexual deviates) and other classic anti-christian behavior in the name of Jesus.
Since I haven’t been to westwood in a while, she well could be right about some things, but I read that this was SOELY for the Benefit of the Center of Independant Living Options, whom from my research is an awesome organization. I highly doubt they are drug dealers or protitutes, and would probably like to have no disabilities,and go get a job,( some of them might have a job) but maybe Melva does’nt Understand. They have diabilities. They need assistance. That was one of the major interests of Jesus as far as I have read.
It is our duty to help others. I am just hope the council as a whole is doing this one thing right.
23 Jun 2008 at 02:10 pm | #
My goodness - this woman is sick. Someone oughta do some research on HER. I’m pretty certain she has a few skeletons in her closet. Did she get an FHA home loan? Well, that’s a social welfare program. ...
23 Jun 2008 at 05:33 pm | #
I don’t understand many of Gweyn’s points because she obviously has her own challenges with mastery of the written word. But, I do know this. I would be far more apprehensive about having the likes of Ms. Gweyn as a neighbor than I would people that are facing and trying to deal with the challenges life has dealt them. I applaud that. I bet she’s bringing down property values in the neighborhood.
23 Jun 2008 at 08:43 pm | #
In that I , and probably none of the responders, have not read item # 200800710, I have to make assumptions as to the effects of item # 200800710.
I probably wouldn’t like Ms. Gweyn if I met her but I am sure that she has some valid issues that aren’t being dealt with very intelligently. She, like many west side property owners and residents feel frustrated with the lava-like flow of poorer families up the hill and along Harrison Avenue. Many of these people have very little and often prey on those nearby to get what they may not be able to afford. The people that follow Ms. Gweyn are only part of the white population of the western hills as many have already migrated away from the problems. Neither felt the need to deal with the problem in the past as it was always concentrated in other areas of the city and country. Ignoring the problems of others allowed the causes and effects of poverty to fester and grow. Ms. Gweyn is fighting the effects of a problem that we should have all been addressing.
While it may be felt that Mr. Crowley is responding reasonably, I don’t think it is reasonable at all. It is a feeble band-aid at best. Cincinnati City Council is neither financially or politically strong enough to be effective nor are they smart enough to be effective. They just make murky the waters and give a false sense of problem solving to those poor that want to believe help is coming. It is just another promise not kept. The needs of the poorer in this country should be provided for at a national level and the function of the city government should be in areas that they can control.
23 Jun 2008 at 09:02 pm | #
The City needs to approve this so federal dollars for permanently disabled people who are poor can be utilized to help about 80 qualified people in Cincinnati who are not currently in Section 8.
24 Jun 2008 at 12:21 am | #
Thank you Deiter, now I don’t have to take massive amounts of illegal drugs to be confused, your comments were quite enough. If sarcasm was your intent, it needs to be less rambling and more to the point to be effective. On the other hand if this is more of your ongoing effort to import Eastern European Socialism, please by all means, go home and live the dream.
24 Jun 2008 at 06:00 am | #
Melva is obviously twisted. I understand her fears of this being a backdoor way to establish half-way houses for people who are supposedly disabled by alcohol and drugs. But, c’mon, this is the Center for Independent Living. IF she would bother to take the time to research their organization she would realize her fears are ungrounded.
A couple years ago I attended a charity poker tournament hosted by the Center and met some of the nicest people I have ever met. Here’s to hoping Council gets the measure passed to help them out.
24 Jun 2008 at 06:48 am | #
But, I do know this. I would be far more apprehensive about having the likes of Ms. Gweyn as a neighbor than I would people that are facing and trying to deal with the challenges life has dealt them - - - from cincysuz - - - - - - - - -
Cincysuz, you would welcome on your street
a group home for sex offenders,
or
a drug rehab group home,
or
a home for recovering prostitutes,
etc. etc.
Dean of Cincinnati provides a photo of a small child in a wheelchair which is nothing more than a defense attorney shedding tears in a closing argument. Why not a photo of a drug addict lying in the lawn of a neighbor, or a couple of mentally challenged teens having sex in the back yard of a neighbor - yup, this has occured where such homes exist.
Chances are Melva is not a good neighbor, you know, the kind who was nasty to everyone and would take & keep the kid’s baseballs when they landed in her yard. We all grew up with those types.
But in our day we had Damage Night just before Halloween and we got them back.
Nothing violent, just a little soap on windows.
24 Jun 2008 at 09:40 am | #
Thank you for the additional information. This information supports one of my thoughts. Are there only 80 people that require this assistance in Cincinnati? Is this another case of helping a few because they are the squeaking wheel or they happen to have lucked out in finding someone to champion their cause meanwhile there are ten times as many that need help but don’t know where to get the help because of the piecemeal and sporadic efforts to make the program available to all who need it.
What does it take to be qualified? I know quite a bit about Section 8 and I fail to see where Section 8 is designed to meet the needs of the handicapped. Now if it is deemed that Section 8 take on this task, then there needs to be some appropriate legislation and, of course additional funding. This should be at the federal level (Section 8 is a federal program) and the city should not muddy the waters.
24 Jun 2008 at 06:20 pm | #
White Male - several times you’ve suggested (in other posts)that people should just have a cup of coffee with a Cincinnati police officer and that police officer would spill their guts. You infer that the officers are going to say that black people are bad as are those that receive subsidized housing and in fact anyone different than yourself. So what you’re claiming is that you have first hand knowledge that one or more members of the Cincinnati police department are very comfortable airing their bigotry and prejudice against those that they are paid to serve in private conversations with you and I guess any other white person that engages them on the topic. You claim that you and the officers think alike. And I don’t doubt what you’re saying is true. You just give more evidence to support the widespread belief that this is a racist town, run by a racist police department at the behest of a racist population like you and the woman that is the subject of this post.
25 Jun 2008 at 06:36 am | #
FROM CINCYSUZ…
is true. You just give more evidence to support the widespread belief that this is a racist town, run by a racist police department at the behest of a racist population like you and the woman that is the subject of this post.
Cincyzuz - the officer over a cup of coffee would relate the eperiences he/she has had in neighborhoods with sectin-8 people as opposed to non-sectin 8 people.
Here is something I posted a few days ago:
haven’t been on a certain street in a few years where there are three side by side two family dwellings - all section 8. There is a marked difference between these three dwellings and the sourround homes which are all single family dwellings, and to my knowledge, owner occupied. When last there the three two family dwellings were unkempt with neglected lawns and toys and bikes scattered about the properties.
The sourrounding homes were in much better shape. Many of the sourrounding homes are starter homes.
I knew one such fellow who lived on that street 40+ years. Both he and wife have passed on. They raised four children, sent them through the Catholic schools and to my knowledge all have gone on to college. This geneleman probably missed less than five days of work in his entire lifetime. He was alive when the three section 8 dwellings came to his street. He lived about 2 blocks down the street, and reported there were a high amount of police runs TO THOSE DWELLINGS and very very few, if any, to the other homes on the street. Dean, why should he and other neighbors have to live near section 8 people who have consistently been a nusisance to the neighborhood?
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For some unknown reason the police make an inordinate amount of runs to the three two family dwellings on this street. If CINCYSUZ and WHITE MALE are partners on a patrol - how would cincysuz react to the fact that they make a few runs a month to those section 8 2 family homes on that street but NOT to other owner occupied homes on the same street. So, Cincysuz is a beat-cop having a cup of coffee with theDean of Cincinnati - is she a racist because she reveals that in certain areas the section 8 people cause most of the problems?
I am confident that having a cup of coffee with any cincinnati patrolman (white,black,female) would reveal the same facts - the section 8 people are a serious problem - espcially when they live among non section 8 people.