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Tuesday, September 23, 2008
Where are the dangerous intersections?
Posted by The Dean of Cincinnati
Councilmember Crowley and others who wish to install red-light cameras would have us believe this is a public safety issue. But I have not heard of any councilmember releasing the location of intersections to potentially receive these devices. Wouldn’t a simple, no-cost way to improve safety involve at least telling us the location of dangerous intersections?
Why hasn’t council picked the locations? And what sort of strategy will be used for picking locations? Will they be placed at Cincinnati’s most deadly intersections, or the ones that some kind of analysis shows to be the most profitable? Is there a difference?
If studies like these aren’t enough to convince you that red-light cameras are a bad idea, then this simple exercise in logic should demonstrate council’s questionable motives.
The City’s most dangerous intersections should be identified immediately. Word should be spread so that we all can know to be extra careful at these intersections. Perhaps a private philanthropist will even donate some “Dangerous Intersections Ahead” signs, to be posted approaching these alleged death traps.
And if Council will not tell us where the danger is located, then safety has got to be the furthest thing from their minds.
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23 Sep 2008 at 09:56 pm | #
Oh me, oh my, but what shall we ever do if council can’t just impose these cameras on us whenever they want, even if it’s for all the wrong reasons? I mean if the public changes the Charter to prevent council from having the power to just impose this, then council will actually have to work to get public support for it. That might lead to people demanding more referendums on big decisions.
I mean, what if the public just decides to collect over 12,000 signatures so they can vote on other issues that they care about? Then we might have a lot of democratic processes going on and council’s corporate paymasters will not be very happy about that at all.
24 Sep 2008 at 11:46 am | #
They won’t release them because people who care will follow up on them. they will prove that this is all about the money.
They are banking on the opposition screwing up when securing signatures that will put this up to a vote.
Same old shit for City Council.... it just took them a little longer to prove it.
26 Sep 2008 at 11:02 am | #
Dear All:
I contacted Thomas’ office because I knew he was trying to remember the locations during the Cincinnati Democratic Caucus on Saturday.
Two of these I remembered Cecil stating,the others I could not.
Hope this is helpful to those of us who seek the information.
However, another council member noted that, until the decision was made one way or another in November, none are being touted.
Thanks to the CouncilMember Thomas’ staff for the help.
On Thu, 9/25/08, Thomas, Cecil <Cecil.Thomas@cincinnati-oh.gov> wrote:
From: Thomas, Cecil <Cecil.Thomas@cincinnati-oh.gov>
Subject: RE: List of intersections
To:
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 4:08 PM
(I omitted the Districts and the number of accidents Ms. Taylor sent)
Dear Ms. Edwards:
The top five intersection crash locations are (based on statistics from the CPD for 2006-07) are:
Rank LOCATION
1 IR 75 EX / IR 74 Ex
2 Clifton Av/Martin Luther King Dr
3 Harrison Av / Queen City Av
4 Colerain Av / North Bend Rd
5 Madison Rd / Red Bank EX
I hope this information will be helpful to you.
Thank you.
Sherry R. Taylor
Office of Councilmember Cecil Thomas
This I compiled from MapQuest. Hope to get more actual visual in next two weeks.
IR 75 EX / IR 74 Ex
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Cincinnati&state=OH&address=I+75+&+I+74&zipcode=45201&country=US&latitude=39.15056&longitude=-84.540082&geocode=INTERSECTION
Clifton Avenue and Martin Luther King Jr. Drive
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Cincinnati&state=OH&address=Clifton+Ave+&+Martin+Luther+King+Dr+W&zipcode=45201&country=US&latitude=39.135339&longitude=-84.520048&geocode=INTERSECTION
Harrison Avenue and Queen City Avenue
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Cincinnati&state=OH&address=Harrison+Ave+&+Queen+City+Ave&zipcode=45214&country=US&latitude=39.126221&longitude=-84.548874&geocode=INTERSECTION
Colerain Avenue and (West) North Bend Road
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Cincinnati&state=OH&address=Colerain+Ave+&+W+North+Bend+Rd&zipcode=45223&country=US&latitude=39.191179&longitude=-84.570517&geocode=INTERSECTION
Madison and Red Bank:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Cincinnati&state=OH&address=Madison+Road+And+Red+Bank
27 Sep 2008 at 04:31 pm | #
Have they moved to extend the yellow or amber lights? Have they put out press releases warning the public to be extra careful there because of the alleged epidemic? No, because this about generating revenue.
09 Oct 2008 at 06:31 pm | #
Forget cameras, could they just install working lights at Jefferson/Vine/MLK?
Good grief, this morning 1/4 of the traffic had the sun directly in their eyes, the rest of us x’d our fingers, prayed to St. Christopher, and crossed the intersection. As soon as I got home I called 911. That intersection is crazy enough (people regularly run red lights) without non-working signals.