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Saturday, October 06, 2007


Has It All Come Down to a Jail?

Posted by The Dean of Cincinnati

Cincinnati Six Years After the Killing and the Riots

Guest article by Dan LaBotz

Why six years after police killed an unarmed black man and the city was rocked by riots, has everything in Cincinnati come down to the building of a jail? How did the liberals’ darling Todd Portune end up joining hands with conservative moral crusader Sheriff Simon Leis? Why has the Democratic Party placed all of its chips on 800 more jail beds in a city and a county with a declining population? Why have not only Democrats and Republicans, but also the corporations and the labor unions joined together to build a jail that is opposed by the NAACP and most black Cincinnatians? How did what began as a search for racial reconciliation lead to a jail that is to many here the emblem, that is, both the symbol and the reality of racial discrimination?

In April 2001 Cincinnati was shocked by a police officer’s killing of 19-year-old, unarmed black man named Timothy Thomas and then convulsed by an inner-city riot with arson and looting, a black urban rebellion much like one that had taken place thirty years before. The city—suddenly shaken by the realization that in three decades it had made no progress whatsoever in race relations—came all at once to its feet with gasp. Pastors, priests and rabbis summoned their congregations who prayed for understanding, reconciliation and peace.

The city council showed sudden new interest in long-neglected issues of poverty and housing. Mayor Charles Luken created a blue-ribbon commission charged with improving police-community relations. After a suit by the Black United Front and the ACLU, a Federal judge took charge of overseeing the reform of the Cincinnati police under the Collaborative Agreement. There were promises of summer jobs for youth and pledges to bring economic development to the old, inner-city neighborhoods of Cincinnati.

African American groups, with little faith in such promises, called for another boycott of Cincinnati-in addition to the one already enforced by the gay community-until the local government could create economic and social justice for the Cincinnati’s black people. City Hall responded with a public relations campaign proclaiming that Cincinnati was all the things they wished it were and that we knew it was not. The gay and black boycotts continued for years, until gays won and blacks gave up, but by then the white power structure had tasted victory at Taste of Cincinnati and Oktoberfest and blacks had forgotten the boycott and returned to the Black Family Reunion.

Progress and Poverty

For the last six years the city has wrestled with its identity, and there was some undeniable progress. The notorious city ordinance prohibiting gays and lesbians from invoking civil rights law to defend themselves from discrimination was overturned in a referendum. In what was clearly a vote against the old white power structure, the city elected Mark Mallory, an African American, to be its mayor, defeating Councilman David Pepper. SEIU’s Justice for Janitors campaign brought union organization, higher wages, and health benefits to some of the city’s lowest paid workers. We even passed by referendum a no smoking ordinance for bars and restaurants to protect the health of workers and the public, despite the tobacco lobby’s attempt to confuse us with a look-alike proposition,

Yet after six years, things had not improved much in the neighborhoods, and in some ways they have gotten worse. Cincinnati and Hamilton County employers continued to move further out into the surrounding suburbs in both Ohio and neighboring Kentucky. Cincinnati’s unemployment rate is now 5 percent and black unemployment over 10 percent, while unemployment for black teenagers has reached a staggering 30 percent. Poverty seems to have become endemic.

In 2007 Cincinnati, a city of 317,000 people, 53 percent of them white and 42 percent black, won the title of third poorest city in the nation after Detroit and Buffalo. The U.S. Census Bureau reported that Cincinnati had 27.8 percent of its residents living in poverty, up from number 8 in 2006 with 25 percent among the poor, and up from number 22 in 2004 with 19.6 living in poverty. In many black neighborhoods the poverty level is much higher than almost one third in poverty in the city.

The poverty hits children hard. The river city has a scandalous infant morality rate of 13.1 per 1,000-about the same as Jamaica and French Guiana. The Hamilton County is not far behind with a rate of 10.5, far worse than that for Ohio at 7.6 or the United States at 6.8 per 1,000. (Just to put things in perspective, the rate for Sweden with a national health care system is 3.2 per 1,000.) Cincinnati’s high school drop out rate is reported between 50 or 75 percent, depending on who’s counting and how. Students who were once dropouts, for example, have now become part of the virtual education program that has yet to prove it works.

Interestingly, according to the Ohio Office of Criminal Justice Services, violent crime in Cincinnati rose at the slowest rate in the state in 2006, just 1.2 percent. But, while other violent crimes were down, murder in Cincinnati went up an alarming 10 percent-presumably driven by the violence of drug gangs-though that 10 percent was less than half the increase in Cleveland and Columbus where murders rose by over 20 percent. With these sorts of problems, perhaps it is not surprising that Cincinnati’s population has been declining for decades and Hamilton County’s for the last several years as people have moved to distant counties or across the state line to Kentucky where the past of the segregated city is mirrored in the present of the big houses and green lawns of the segregated suburbs.

Now It Has All Come Down to a Jail

As is apparent to all, Cincinnati and Hamilton County have many problems-yet strangely enough as we approach the November election the one problem that occupies center stage, the one issue that has been the focus of attention is not education, employment, improving race relations, or that vague but inspiring notion of social justice, but rather the building of a new county jail. The construction of a new Hamilton County jail has become the central issue in local politics and the focus of an unprecedented cooperation between liberal Democrats and conservative Republicans. Urged on by David Pepper, son of a Proctor & Gamble CEO, Democrat Todd Portune of the County Commission, has embraced the notorious right-wing sheriff Republican Simon Leis, and the three together have pledged to build a new jail come hell or high water.

Other things are going on of course. There has been Operation Vortex/Operation Take Back Our Streets a joint effort by the Cincinnati Police Department and the Hamilton County Sheriffs to drive criminals out of Over-the-Rhine in order to make the area more attractive to investors and developers. Those developers, led by 3CDC, the Cincinnati Center City Development Corporation, which has more or less replaced the city’s defunct planning department, smile upon the removal of poor blacks to make way for the creative class, the young, the hip, the childless, the folks with surplus expendable income. The operation has turned Vine St., Over-the-Rhine’s principal thoroughfare, into the main street of a ghost town and has driven crime into nearby communities and even into the suburbs. A new arts center has become the anchor for investors, developers and the creative class-but most of them have yet to arrive.

Then too there’s the decade old off-again, on-again Banks Project, a multi-million dollar commercial and residential development project planned to be built on the Ohio River. The city’s elite and investors debated whether or not to have 30-story towers along Second Street that might block the view of corporate leaders sitting in the mahogany rooms of an older generation of skyscrapers. The Banks-if it ever gets built-will be an expansion of Cincinnati’s downtown meant to attract Fortune Five Hundred companies and to employ that creative class that if all goes as planned will live among the boutiques and trendy restaurants of the new Over-the-Rhine where once German immigrants, the Appalachians, and African Americans lived.

But the central struggle isn’t being fought over 3CDC’s makeover of Over-the-Rhine, nor over the multimillion dollar Banks Project. Like a chess match where for several moves everything seems focused on what might otherwise simply be an insignificant pawn, so in Cincinnati all of the powers-that-be and all of the people that oppose them have focused their energies on the issue of the new Hamilton County Jail that-in a city and county with declining population-would add 800 prisoner beds.

The Odd Fellows: Leis-Pepper-Portune

Sherrif Simon Leis, a conservative moral crusader who closed down Last Tango in Paris when it was to be shown at a Cincinnati theater in 1972 and convicted Larry Flynt of Hustler magazine of obscenity in 1977, is the heavy in this drama. Leis’s central role in closing down the exhibition Robert Mapplethorpe: The Perfect Moment at the Contemporary Arts Center in 1990 brought him national notoriety and the opprobrium of artists, intellectuals, and those who valued First Amendment rights. Several months later a jury found the Maplethorpe photographs were not obscene and a decade later Mapplethorpe’s photos were shown in Cincinnati in a retrospective. The times had changed and even Cincinnati had changed, but Leis held on to his power and sought to expand it. At the center of his ambitions was a new county jail that he has fought for throughout the last 15 years.

Leis and his various Republican and Democratic allies have argued that the jail is necessary to replace or supplement already existing jail space, some of it older space renovated only a few years ago and some of it relatively new, including the modern Justice Center finished in 1985. The immediate principal beneficiary of a new jail would be Leis who would oversee the new expanded facility and a much larger budget. The Sheriff’s opponents counter that the county has enough jail space if only it were properly administered. The jail they point out regularly houses alcohol and drug abusers accused of pissing in the park, the homeless found sleeping on the streets, the mentally ill found wandering the city lost in their psychotic fears and fantasies, and many poor people who would be released if they could make bail or if there were a functioning night court. Leis, however, wants a bigger jail not a better run one.

Last year Leis’s fellow Republican Phil Heimlich put forward the plan for a bigger jail with the 800 additional beds to be paid for by a regressive sales tax. Carl Lindner, the multimillionaire, former owner of Chiquita Brands, and dominant figure in the Republican Party, backed up Leis and Heimlich. The County Commissioners-then two Republicans and one Democrat-put the issue to the voters as a referendum on the November 2006 ballot. But the people didn’t want it. Conservatives argued that it cost too much, while progressives argued that the jail was no way to fight crime and the regressive sales tax was no way to pay for it. Cincinnati Progressive Action, a small group of local activists, created No Jail Tax PAC and carried out an educational campaign stressing the need for education, jobs, and facilities for mental health and drug and alcohol addiction. While Lindner and other backs of the jail put up $250,000, No Jail Tax opponents raised about $1,000 to oppose it. Voters left, right and center went to the polls in large numbers and defeated the jail tax.

Hemilich’s jail went down to defeat, so did Heimlich himself, and former mayoral candidate Democrat David Pepper, Jr., a Cincinnati City Councilman who had originally introduced what became one of the country’s harshest anti-marijuana laws, was elected to the Hamilton County Board of Commissioners. Leis, Pepper and Portune then took up the jail issue anew, now adding some modest mental health and drug treatment programs for jail prisoners, but still calling for the additional 800 beds. And, as with Heimlich’s jail, the new facility would be financed by a regressive sales tax-an even larger tax-falling heaviest on working people and the poor. Portune and Pepper then passed the measure at the three-member Board meeting over the contrary vote from Republican Pat DeWine, imposing a new jail on citizens who had only a few months before rejected a similar proposal. Two white men had voted for a jail that if built would, like every other jail and prison in the country, house an inordinate number of black people. Voters, however, still had the right to put the measure on the ballot, and immediately the organizing began.

Furious that the commissioners had voted for the jail when only a few months before it had gone down to defeat in a county-wide referendum, critics of the jail tax launched a campaign for another referendum. Opponents of the jail were led by the NAACP and included Cincinnati Progressive Action and the Green Party on the left and COAST (Citizens Opposed to Additional Spending and Taxes), various Republican officials, and the Libertarian Party on the right. Those groups created a tacit alliance and cooperated in circulating petitions to give citizens the right to vote on the jail in the November 2007 election. Leis, Pepper and Portune responded by taking their case to dozens of groups around the county, urging voters not so sign the petitions which, they said, would only delay the inevitable. But citizens rushed to sign the petitions at local church fairs, block parties, and summer festivals. The opposing groups, led by the NAACP’s grassroots activists, collected over 54,000 signatures, with 38,961 of them declared valid, 10,000 more than the number needed to put the issue on the ballot.

The Jail: The Democratic Party Stakes All its Chips

The Democratic Party has decided to make the jail the issue of the election, invoking party to discipline to keep the unions, the social service agencies, and new city council candidates in line. Pepper and Portune prove to be a potent pair, the Janus face of the Democratic Party. Pepper’s face turns toward the corporate powers. It was Pepper, son of a P&G CEO, who played a crucial role on the Cincinnati City Council in multimillion dollar concessions to keep Convergys and Kroger from leaving Cincinnati. Portune’s face turns toward the social service agencies and other do-gooders who have depended upon him during the Republican lean years to keep them afloat. Pepper and Portune, having added some in-jail mental health and substance abuse programs, claim that building a new, bigger jail is now a progressive measure. Now known as Issue 27, the jail proposal, would raise the county’s sales tax a half-cent for eight years, lower it a quarter-cent for seven years and then eliminate it after 15 years. The tax would build a new $198 million, 1,800-bed jail an $11 million juvenile detention facility. Hamilton County, its population still declining, would have the biggest jail in Ohio.

The Democratic Party plays a powerful in Cincinnati’s labor and social movements-not in providing leadership, but in exerting discipline over those that might get out of line. Democrats have told the unions that they must not only support the party’s candidates but also its jail tax. So unions that one might expect to a progressive position-such as the Cincinnati Federation of Teachers or the Coalition of Black Trade Unionists-have toed the line. The Building Trades, of course, can be counted on to support building anything so long as it provides jobs for their almost all white membership. Similarly Todd Portune has made it clear to social service organizations that serve the poor and that he has often lobbied for that he expects them to support the jail. Liberal Democratic City Council candidates have also been told that they will be expected to support the jail or loose the party’s support.

The only major organization in the city that has had the courage to stand up to the Democratic Party on this issue is the NAACP chapter led by Christopher Smitherman. Smitherman, a stockbroker, a fiscal conservative and a former city councilman, infuriated the establishment and especially the police department when he attempted to use his seat on the city council to examine the institutional racism of the city. Smitherman’s demands for answers to police killings and his suggestion that the police department was controlled by an old white boys network of former graduates of the once-white West Side’s Elder High School Hamilton led to accusations by County Prosecutor Michael K. Allen that Smitherman himself was involved in “racial profiling.” Shocked an angered by the reaction to his attempts to get at the truth of Cincinnati’s racism, Smitherman became the council’s angry young man. The media turned on him and Smitherman went down to defeat in the 2007 elections.

More determined than ever to fight the racism of the white establishment, Smitherman then ran for president of the NAACP promising to make the organization a more aggressive presence in the region, winning only after a bitter organizational and legal battle with his opponent Edith Thrower. Smitherman, whose moderate politics were long ago overtaken by his sense of indignation at the racist treatment of African Americans in Cincinnati, has proven to be one of the few people in the city with the courage to speak out and to act, no matter what the establishment thinks, conservative or liberal. At the same time his essentially conservative political views make it possible for him to work with the right-wing Republican anti-tax crowd led by Pat DeWine. Smitherman seems not to realize that his conservative worldview and his search for racial justice are at odds, but thankfully it is the latter that seems to drive him.

Smitherman speaks for many black Cincinnatians when he says, “Until the justice system is fair in Hamilton County, the Cincinnati branch of the NAACP cannot support building a new jail. The NAACP knows well that the sentences and punishments for African Americans are harsher and longer. It is this disparity in the justice system that underscores the discrimination of African-American people in Hamilton County and across the nation.” (Kevin Osborne, “Jail Break,” City Beat, Sept. 12, 2007.)

The Cincinnati Democrats, locked in the embrace of Republican Sheriff Leis and apparently oblivious to the racial divide that they are exacerbating, have turned the jail into the central political issue for November. What explains this strange turn of events? Some speculate that Portune and Pepper must believe that their alliance with Leis on this issue will make it feasible for them to portray themselves as the party of law and order and therefore to win enough independent and Republican votes to turn their two-to-one majority on the County Commission into a permanent state of affairs. Portune will certainly find it a lot easier to run for office in the next election if he doesn’t have to contend with Sheriff Leis and Carl Lindner.

In any case, Pepper and Portune seem to be able to count on Cincinnati’s Democratic Party which during the last national election became a much better organized and more disciplined outfit. Whether or not that democratic organization can deliver the voters, particularly black voters remains to be seen. As they take the case to the people, the new liberal activists of the party organization may wonder if a Democratic Party victory on this issue is really worth it if in the end it means that Simon Leis has a bigger jail and a bigger budget and that black Cincinnati feels betrayed. What will Cincinnatians say to themselves six years after Timothy Thomas was killed and the riots broke out, that we have a bigger jail? And here we thought all that soul searching had something to do with racial and social justice.

Originally published at CounterPunch.


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  1. A Concerned Reader says:

    This is a gross over-simplification of an issue.

    Either LaBotz is deliberately distorting local issues, or he’s completely ignorant of what’s been happening in police-community relations and race relations in Cincinnati over the past six and a half years.

  2. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Please quote a specific moment that is a “gross over-simplification,” and explain yourself.

  3. A Concerned Reader says:

    How about the first sentence, and this entry’s very premise? “Why six years after police killed an unarmed black man and the city was rocked by riots, has everything in Cincinnati come down to the building of a jail?”

    No, everything has not come down to building a jail. A lot of people have done a lot of hard work in the intervening years to reform the police department and engage the community, and that work will continue after Election Day.

  4. Monica says:

    Further Concerned,as a member of the Black community in Cincinnati I would be very interested to know what has been happening in the area of police-community relations and racial relations??

  5. Don Robertson, The American Philosopher says:

    This is quite a brave article by Dan LaBotz.  And, Cincinnati for it, is healing some of its historic wounds.

    It is difficult to propel a convincing argument into the public mind and disparate consciousness when so many are so entrenched.

    Still, as a moral philosopher, I can assure everyone here, a new jail is immoral UNLESS, it is constructed as a last resort to control what otherwise would have to be cogently and utterly compellingly argued is a necessary last resort before what would otherwise be a necessary retreat of humanity itself.

    The building of this jail must be a step with a benefit that clearly outweighs the detriment our present society hurtles like an explosive missile at the immediate and distant future.

    For we all will be damned for the construction of this thing by the future.

    The proponents here must consider even their own children, and grandchildren, and great-grandchildren could end up confined in this living hell being considered for construction with public dollars.

    Such a jail will house unborn inmates for likely the next fifty to one-hundred years, if not considerably longer.

    This quite clearly is not the sort of world anyone should unnecessarily want to bequeath to the future, unless it is otherwise impossible to live without it, the safety of everyone else requiring such an abomination of the human spirit.

    Are we really there?

    Is there no other approach?

    Is there no other solution than to depend upon a millennia old caging technology meant to simply remove human beings from the sight of the rest of us?

    Everything else should be tried and exhaustively ruled out before building such an edifice and monument to brutal prisons and imprisonment, the surest of man-made hells on this earth.

    If this is what it has come to, then let the proponents stand up and broadly condemn all of humanity for the brutes we all are, both the criminals and those who must see them confined behind walls where the criminals are made to disappear.

    We were all babes in our mothers’ arms once.

    And let these proponents, the vile politicians, their haughty and often drunken judges, their nasty hot-headed prosecutors, and the other snotty elitists of society, let them all say convincingly to each of the rest of us threatened with a brutal and life-threatening incarceration in this thing, when it comes time for their own progeny to serve their hard time behind these cruel walls they want to build, that they will send them there too.

    If it is to be built, build it with some convincing public stance by making it a felony even to attempt to pull strings to keep some out while others are sent in.

    Because the children and the grandchildren of all the proponents here are all too likely drug addicts and criminals too.

    Don Robertson, The American Philosopher

  6. ThatDeborahGirl says:

    The only thing that I can possibly see that could be construed as “oversimplification” is that he goes out of his way to keep from saying how much sheer, stark racism drives the push for a jail.

    This article is detailed and really highlights the ins and outs of the jail controversy.

    In a nutshell: Cincinnati and Hamilton County do all their citizens, black and white, a great disservice if the best we can do after the riots is build a jail by imposing a heavy tax on the poorest citizens.

    That message comes through loud and clear.

    I’m sure CincySue and others like “A Concerned Reader” will be by soon enough to trash the article in it’s entirety after only reading the first paragraph.

    However, I read the article completely and I find it a very clear take on the issues surrounding the jail.

  7. ???! says:

    No, everything has not come down to building a jail. A lot of people have done a lot of hard work in the intervening years to reform the police department and engage the community, and that work will continue after Election Day.

    A Concerned Reader, who are you concerned about? The Sheriff is in OTR and that undermines the collaberative agreement which had to be extended because its goals weren’t met. The Portune/Pepper/Leis plan undermines any progress that may have been made. Please tell us what’s been done and how you would know how effective it has been.

    Has anything been done to reform the Sheriff or is he acting as if he’s above the law with the complicity of Pepper, Portune and judges that are his friends?

  8. WTF says:

    O:K, here come the critique from my end:

    Screw the “history lesson”

    Let’s look at the present truth.

    Overall violent crime has grown meagerly, while murder has gone through the roof.  What does this mean?  It means the same people who were once robbing and assaulting someone to get their money, are now killing them to get it.  Why would this happen?  Weaknesses in the criminal justice system maybe?  You get out early with a partially suspended sentence because the judge’s know there isn’t room in the jail.  You violate probation - and still, you get a few days and your “suspended” sentence is reinstated - because you don’t have enough room in the jail to send a clear and inconvenient message.  Slowly, your level of violence rises - and eventually, you kill a little old lady to get the last $30 of her social security check - and off you go to prison to await the hang man provided courtesy of Dirty Deeds Deters, an unfair court system and a frustrated public awed by the sheer vulgarity of violence.

    Would serving a full sentence, alone, had been enough to prevent the ultimate escalation in violence?  No, of course not.

    But friends, where LaBotz has it ALL WRONG is that this isn’t ALL ABOUT A NEW JAIL - it’s about what happens before someone gets to that jail, what happens while in that jail, what happens upon release.

    This is not a black and white issue of jail or no jail—it is about all the services, initiatives and reforms before, during and after the judicial system is involved. (About half of the funding is going to THESE services)

    So for him to “color” it as a black-white question, jail-no jail ignors all the Good Works that are carrying the day of debate—And that is racist, fear-mongering, and lies.

    I’ve never seen such a gorss manipulation of the empowerment and successes of black America as is coming from those who want to look no further than jail in order to judge this entire proposal.

  9. A Concerned Reader says:

    Ahhhh, Monica Williams.

    Have you ever been involved in CPOP or your local community council at all?

    For that matter, have any of you? I do think racism exists in Cincinnati and the police department needs reform, among many other problems. But to say it’s all “come down to the building of a jail” is simply inaccurate.

    Criticism of the power structure is important, but so is engagement and working to provide solutions.

  10. Anon says:

    Don Robertson is to philosophy as Kenny G is to Jazz

  11. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    There’s a lot of truth in what the WhistleBlower is saying, namely that Leis is pulling out all the stops to get a Semper Si Memorial Hoosegow built.

  12. Jones says:

    Ahhhh, Monica Williams.

    Have you ever been involved in CPOP or your local community council at all?

    It certainly sounds like she’s not involved in her community & in programs such as CPOP, Citizens on Patrol, or Block Watch.  If she was, she wouldn’t be asking such ignorant questions.

    The gay and black boycotts continued for years, until gays won and blacks gave up, but by then the white power structure had tasted victory at Taste of Cincinnati and Oktoberfest and blacks had forgotten the boycott and returned to the Black Family Reunion.

    This statement is so true & hilarious. The GLBT residents & business owners dug in for a long struggle & they were victorious. The blacks wonder why they aren’t taken seriously in this town. Re-read the statement above from this LaBotz guy.  However, I noticed he chose to call the whites “white power structure”.  The Taste of Cincinnati was going to go on regardless of what segment of the population has grievances.  Oktoberfest is a standing tradition in this city that celebrates another ethnic group whose numbers are rapidly shrinking within the boundaries of this town. The German people are becoming a minority.  Imagine that. Perhaps it’s time for them rise up & start demanding equal time & equal perks.

    Some of this LaBotz summary is nothing but a lot of hot air.

  13. anon says:

    Don’t bring Leis into this - he has proven he’s an idiot - stick to the issue.

    The jail is proof of rampant racism in Cincinnati and a memorial to it…. isn’t that the ridiculous proposition being made——back to topic, please

  14. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    This is not a black and white issue of jail or no jail—it is about all the services, initiatives and reforms before, during and after the judicial system is involved. (About half of the funding is going to THESE services)—from WTF (#8)

    Well, that’s not what the Sheriff says.  On September 12 at the Blue Ash Republican Club meeting he said this about how much of the jail tax, in relative terms, would go to those kinds of programs:

    The vast majority will be for the operation of the jail—vast majority—very little, small minimum will be for all the other things.

  15. cincysuz says:

    You’ve got to be kidding calling out oddball political couplings. The lewdest, most disgusting and most suspect (who’s getting paid?) of all to emerge is the Smitherman/Brinkman-COAST/Cincinnati Beacon menage a tois. Gay bashing, cincinnati public school destroying, 14th Amendment non-ratifying, gun manufacturer supporting Brinkman + failed city councilman, decamillionaire aspiring, supposed black leader, operatic wannabe, jump-before-you-look Smitherman + the 3 heads with one voice, indescribable hodgebodge of contradictory rhetoric: the Dean, Jeffre and Michael Patton. What’s more weird? Portune and Leis, in their capacity as elected officials, working together on an issue or people claiming to be activists and that should be philosophically and morally opposed to each other on every level skinning and grinning at every camera they can find.

    Talk against the jail. You do that fairly well. But think again before you start trying to weave your sweeping generalizations into some kind of tawdry political romance novel. Locked in an embrace. Come on. If Portune and Leis are locked in an embrace then Brinkman, Smitherman and the Beacon Boys are already at the point of sharing a smoke.

  16. Leist is an idiot says:

    So we know Leis is an idiot - you can’t quote him to validate your point if you can’t quote him to invalidate it.

    Leis doesn’t know his head from a hole in the ground.  But what he does represent is that unfortunately huge segment of the population demanding security from polling locations in the whitest, most ignorant but influential places in the county.

    And, THEY do have a point—to some extent.

    Quote the numbers from the written plan - not Leis’ top of the head, knee jerk idiocracy.  He doesn’t even get what this whole program is.And he doesn’t care as long as his needs are served.

    It’s the rest of us who care about the big picture

  17. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Quote the numbers from the written plan - not Leis’ top of the head, knee jerk idiocracy.  He doesn’t even get what this whole program is.And he doesn’t care as long as his needs are served.—from Leist is an idiot (#16)

    It was WTF, #8, who anonymously made a totally unreferenced statement that half of the money for the jail tax would go to services, initiatives, and reforms.  I countered with a statement from Leis, signed my name, gave date and location. 

    It is up to the side that wants to tax us for $800 million to provide written documentation as to how the money will be spent, not the opponents.  If WTF had provided a written reference, then I would have, too.  The written references on this subject are virtually non-existant in the “Comprehensive Safety Plan.”  Why?  Because there isn’t a plan, just an outline of a plan to plan.

    Are we supposed to vote for the jail tax based on anonymous, unreferenced statements?

  18. MEPRocks says:

    MEP, I am amazed at his depth of reason, his cogent analytics, years of journalic experience and integrity, and lest we forget, he has advanced study and post doctoral work in criminal justice plannng, jail construction standards, environemental assessments, tax policy and economics.  NOT…who the hell is MEP????  This guy could find a JFK conspiracy on the back of a cereal box.

    MEP, please post your qualifications and resume.

  19. MEP4CC says:

    MEPRocks, MEP is a citizen watch dog that does have an amazing depth of analytical, reasoning and critical thinking skills. He’s very methodical in his thinking and problem solving because he’s an Engineer. He doesn’t need a law degree to have common sense and real world experience. Look at how bad the crooked lawyers and so called experts have screwed up our city and our country.

    Michael Earl Patton is knowledgeable on a whole host of issues and that’s more than you can say about most of the yahoos on council. Who are you to question his work? Name, bio, qualifications and resume please. Or just shut it!

    Many have enjoyed his articles and appreciate his efforts. Only little anonymous shills for the status quo try to discredit and marginalize him.

    Are you saying you believe in magic bullets cracker jack? I can’t wait to learn more about you. By all means continue.

  20. jpq says:

    How do we get a handle on the problem of unsafe streets today?  People in the highest crime neighborhoods are most likely to be the victims of violent crime.  If not the current jail plan, what do we do?

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