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Tuesday, November 18, 2008
Cunningham: Overlooked and over the top
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Over the past two weeks, Media Matters for America has released two reports documenting the smears and falsehoods that saturate the right wing echo chamber on local radio. Yesterday, we put out a press release about Cincinnati’s Bill Cunningham. Last night, NBC 5 in Cincinnati ran a segment on Cunningham. Among Cunningham’s most notable comments.
·Alleging that “Obama wants to gas the Jews”
·Invoking “[s]ix-six-six” and “the beast” in discussing “Barack Hussein Obama”
·On Obama Sr.: “That’s what black fathers do. They simply leave”
·On the poor: “[P]eople are poor in America ... because they lack values, morals, and ethics”
·Declaring that America’s “so-called noble poor” don’t use birth control so that “the mom can get more checks in the mail from the government”
You can read more about Cunningham here: http://mediamatters.org/reports/radio/bill_cunningham
For additional information on the radio reports: http://mediamatters.org/reports/radio/
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18 Nov 2008 at 06:57 pm | #
Bill Cunningham is Cincinnati’s best loved, or hated, Republican clown depending on who you talk to. It’s been reported that on a show a few weeks back he stated that since Barack Obama is President elect there should never be a black man that underachieves--here on out. To that, I sent him an email and questioned why he underachieves. After all he is an attorney, who is a clown, who is on the radio.
He pals around with the likes of Joe Deters and Jim S. He’s a plain and simple idiot. Sarah Palin is a genius compared to this nu
Our group (CAJD) is planning to pay Cincinnati’s best loved or most hated Republican clown a visit on Thursday the 20th or Friday the 21st. Further details
TBA
19 Nov 2008 at 03:19 am | #
CAJD should all send letters to WLW’s advertisers and ask them not to sponsor the program and refuse to patronize their businesses - he is a national embarassment and the typical closet racist pig that rationalizes his every comment.
19 Nov 2008 at 06:45 am | #
Thanks anon our group will do that. For anyone interested in joining us in writing letters and calling, below is the contact information. Below the contact info is some comments from other folks who are sick of Bill Cunningham.
willie@700wlw.com
700WLW Mailing Address:
8044 Montgomery Road, Suite 650
Cincinnati, Ohio 45236
(513) 686-8300
“Bill Cunningham is nothing but a racist, antisemitic, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic bigot. His vitriol, hate and fear mongering is only exceeded by his ignorance and total disregard for the dignity of people who differ from him in their appearance and views. He’s the worst of the worst of the right wing, ultra conservative water carrying lunatics. (See Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity)”
chad miller
“Bill needs to show people where he gets his statistics. This way he can show proof that he is not just giving his opinion on a subject. I respect someone who is not afraid to fight for what is right.”
“Very simply - Bill Cunningham is a symbol of what’s wrong with Cincinnati. As Mark Twain said (albeit unverified) “When the world comes to an end, I want to be in Cincinnati, because it is always 20 years behind the times”. We have serious racial tensions in this city, still. I am not a listener, but hear his show in passing at work and other places. From what I hear, Bill Cunningham is helping keep Cincinnati from being the beautiful, progressive and proudly racially diverse city that it could be.”
19 Nov 2008 at 10:58 am | #
I assume these are the five worst examples of Cunningham’s repertoire. Rather than just dismissing all that was said by Cunningham, why don’t you address the points?
If there was no truth whatsoever in what he said, you would not be concerned. You should know that there is a reason that he is on the air.
I really don’t know who is worse, Cunningham or the above commentators.
19 Nov 2008 at 12:59 pm | #
dieterschmied says:
You don’t know who is worst--here’s a thought--YOU ARE WORST! Because you hide behind not one, but two, fake identities. You’re a coward. Plain and simple.
19 Nov 2008 at 02:17 pm | #
dieterschmied, this has to be the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen you make. These comments are obviously racist and stupid.
Not only is there no evidence what-so-ever that Obama wants to gas the Jews, he’s as pro-Israel as any politician. In fact his support of their occupation of Palestinian lands is very disturbing. That’s just blatant racist fear mongering.
Again more fear mongering nonsense.
Almost every black father I know lives with his children. Those that don’t live with them still take care of their kids. I’ve known some white people that didn’t take care of their kids. This was a racist statement and you support of it doesn’t speak well to your character.
The average American worker makes less money and works longer hours than they did 30 years ago while worker productivity and corporate profits have soared. Most major national and transnational corporations pay no taxes at all. CEO pay and bonuses have sky rocketed. Health care costs have sky rocketed and there’s a corporate crime wave from Enron, Chiquita, to Wall Street. Instead of getting any jail time these corporate crooks get bailouts and at most a slap on the wrist.
Trillions of our tax dollars are used to bailout the welfare queens on Wall Street and the auto industry which privatizes their profits and socializes their risks. Not to mention all the corporate welfare at the state, county and city level. This shifts the tax burden to the poor workers that have already seen their living standards drastically decline. We went from having the highest living standard in the world to have the most adult and child poverty in the industrialized world.
This is like the mythological welfare queens that rode around in Cadillac’s getting rich by having kids and getting welfare in the 80’s, pure horse shit. The truth is the so called noble rich or captains of industry are the real freeloading welfare kings. Just look at a local level. Take all the poor people that get welfare in Hamilton County and compare them to Mike Brown alone. Then add in all the other corporate welfare recipients. Who gets more? The so called noble rich do on the backs of poor working people.
It is total BS, Cunnigham is a racist idiot and the people that listen to him (other than those that are documenting his racism) are idiots too. I really don’t know who’s worse, a guy that gets paid to spew racist BS over our public airwaves or someone that tries to defend his racist BS here on our website for free.
19 Nov 2008 at 05:58 pm | #
I wish that the Southern Poverty Law Center could go after him like they have the KKK, Aryan Nation and a couple of the militias. They have been able to attach millions in assets from these groups and the latest is the Kentucky KKK. Of course first there has to be a legal action from someone that can prove they were harmed by Cunningham. I imagine there are many cases where people have been harassed, marginalized and maybe even attacked because of his volatile rhretoric. It would be great to see Cunningham go broke and WLW as well.
And Dieter, I won’t soon forget the accolades you gave one Adolph Hitler. It gives ome insight into your thinking.
19 Nov 2008 at 08:17 pm | #
Item#1:
First, tell me what is your understanding of the term racist. The five instances that were cited are out of any context. If something is factual but negative about any race considered racist? Or if something is factual and neutral about any race considered racist?
For instance if I were to say that all Jews have Jewish mothers but not all have Jewish fathers, would you consider my statement as being racist?
19 Nov 2008 at 08:28 pm | #
Item#2
I don’t know the context in this case either but on the face of it, I don’t believe that Obama said or implied such a thing. If Cunningham actually said such a thing, it is not “just blatant racist fear mongering” it is a malicious lie and , if said, Cunningham should be fired or WLW should lose their license.
And I really mean they should actually lose their license and a formal complaint should be made.
As to Obama’s position on the occupation of Palestinian lands, I know he is wrong!
19 Nov 2008 at 08:31 pm | #
Item#3:
I don’t know what 6-6-6 is.
19 Nov 2008 at 08:49 pm | #
I know a lot of black people and there are a lot of black fathers that do not live with their children. If you aren’t aware of that maybe you are hanging around with a select group. There is a reason for this and a lot has to do with economics and the general plight of blacks in our society.
I also believe that the consequences of leaving has a degree of justification and that the consequences are aggravated by an elitist and self-righteous society who are quick to judge others, especially those of lesser wealth. These self-righteous people criticize blacks to detract the public from actually understanding societal problems and finding solutions.
I would point out that after WW2, Germany had a shortage of fathers; a big shortage. Millions of children were brought up with only a mothers to raise them and I think they did a very good job. So why is it that Americans can claim it a prerequisite to have two parents to be recognized as a proper human being?
19 Nov 2008 at 09:12 pm | #
[quoteJustin Jeffre says:
19 Nov 2008 at 02:17 pm | #
•On the poor: “[P]eople are poor in America ... because they lack values, morals, and ethics”
The average American worker makes less money and works longer hours than they did 30 years ago while worker productivity and corporate profits have soared. Most major national and transnational corporations pay no taxes at all. CEO pay and bonuses have sky rocketed. Health care costs have sky rocketed and there’s a corporate crime wave from Enron, Chiquita, to Wall Street. Instead of getting any jail time these corporate crooks get bailouts and at most a slap on the wrist.
Trillions of our tax dollars are used to bailout the welfare queens on Wall Street and the auto industry which privatizes their profits and socializes their risks. Not to mention all the corporate welfare at the state, county and city level. This shifts the tax burden to the poor workers that have already seen their living standards drastically decline. We went from having the highest living standard in the world to have the most adult and child poverty in the industrialized world. quote]
Item #5:
I agree with all that you said Justin, but I have to agree with Cunningham as well.
The poor do lack values, at least, the values that they needed to prosper. Make a list of values that you think are most valuable and we might have a basis for discussion. Ethics is generally a synonym for religious philosophy and most have a very shallow self-serving view, if any at all. The morals of the poor are generally dependent on what they either can afford or want to afford. The poor lack the values, ethics and morals because they can’t afford the values, ethics and moral of the affluent.
Any society that supported or tolerated Bush for eight years has questionable values, ethics or morals. The poor are lazy and this last election process shows that they can be bought like a whore and they are too lazy to become informed or to demand a better government. And , ironically, they listen to Cunningham!
19 Nov 2008 at 09:31 pm | #
First of all, I am not defending Cunningham. I don’t believe that I have heard his actual voice for more than a minute or two in my life. What I object to is retorts that never say anything more than attack the speaker without addressing the substance of the speech. Some of what Cunningham has a basis in fact whether you like the facts or not.
Actually, I believe that many fail to use birth control because they don’t want to and why should they? Many of these girls want children for very real and logical reasons. They should have the right to have children and the children should have the right to be nourished, educated, clothed and enjoy the rights of every human.
And I don’t think that society should allow children to go without because the father is playing the game in the way he feels he needs to. If society doesn’t like illegitimate children and welfare mothers, then society need to eliminate the wealth disparity that exists.
Cunningham is not the only one that objects to welfare cost and I would guess that he is in the majority. Being in the majority does not equate to being right.
19 Nov 2008 at 09:38 pm | #
Give credit where credit is due! Acknowledgment is not synonymous to praise.
You have a long way to go to be able to claim that you have insight into my thinking.
19 Nov 2008 at 09:47 pm | #
Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.
How would you like to taste a good wurst?
19 Nov 2008 at 10:55 pm | #
It sure says a lot about us.
He still sells commercial time.
Somebody likes to listen.
Or he wouldn’t be given the microphone.
20 Nov 2008 at 01:44 am | #
Before throwing in your lot with SPLC, you may wish to read this impertinent expose: The Church of Morris Dees - How the Southern Poverty Law Center profits from intolerance by Ken Silverstein, Harper’s Magazine, November 2000
20 Nov 2008 at 05:34 am | #
Dieter wrote:
Taken from the Book of Revelation, many people mistakenly think this is a biblical reference to “the Devil” as it is referred to as “the mark of the beast.”
Really, it is just the sum total of the letters (which were also the same figures as numbers) in the name of Nero Caesar. He killed lots of Christians, so John, Revelation’s author, was just referring to him as a “beast.”
20 Nov 2008 at 05:46 am | #
Hey All--
To add my personal story into this I was at court today (or a mediation hearing) at juvenile court with a teenager who threatened my teenager (threatened to hang, shoot, and repeatedly shouted racial epithets. Long story short we set in the hearing (myself and my ex husband, with the teens parents)
And to be truthful I didn’t want the situation mediated because of the serious nature of the threats (but officer sent to mediation, I could have fought it). Still my son and the teen talked it out. He apologized and admitted that he had judged my son by what he heard on the TV, radio, etc. By the way he looked with braids in his hair. He stated that after talking with my son his opinion is that he is intelligent (should he not have been? He‘s school VP and serves on leadership council) He said that people also make fun of him because he wears cowboy gear and that people call him nasty names and refer to a certain movie. Anyway, when people like Cunningham make those statements--it trickles down to young people and continues breed hate and ignorance.
Unfortunately the “least of them” gets blamed for all that’s wrong with America. Yet the corporate welfare Kings fly to Washington in their 20,000 planes and beg for corporate welfare to bail them out of the auto crisis. They could have saved 60 grand if they’d gotten their butts on a commercial flight. It’s sickening.
Where I live I see flyers everywhere of white Dads who are wanted for not paying child support. Then when I go to Cincinnati I see flyers of black Dads who are wanted for child support. Certainly other issues in the AA community need to be addressed. But is attacking the AA community the answer? Don’t think so.
In case anybody’s interested our group, a few of us, is going to see Billy C today. I think he comes on the air at 10 am. We have a letter that we will give to him that we are giving to his sponsors. Will he/they take notice??????? Will make them!
20 Nov 2008 at 01:02 pm | #
Citizens Against Joe Deters, LULAC was succesful in getting rid of their racist Big Juan billboards. I know you’re in touch with the NAACP and maybe you can get them on board. With over 2,000 members their advertisers might take notice. When the money talks people listen.
20 Nov 2008 at 02:00 pm | #
Racist 1. a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others.
Racism 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
Listen to this ignoramus for 5 minutes and you’ll see the context.
There was nothing factual about what he said. Race is a social construct. When we say race we really mean ethnicity or culture.
When you say Jew which definition do you mean?
1. An adherent of Judaism as a religion or culture.
2. A member of the widely dispersed people originally descended from the ancient Hebrews and sharing an ethnic heritage based on Judaism.
3. A native or inhabitant of the ancient kingdom of Judah.
Item#2
Agreed.
No, the poor lack money, good jobs with living wages, affordable housing, education, health care and a fair tax system where corporations and the rich pay their fair share. If we adjusted the minimum wage from 1968 for inflation it would be 10.00 an hour. You wouldn’t get rich on it, but you could pay for the basics. Single payer health care would cost us less and cover every American craddle to grave with free choice of private doctors. In countries in Europe where we have miltary bases they have free education and day care etc.
Ethics are the rules of conduct recognized in respect to a particular class of human actions or a particular group or culture.
This is nonsense. I’ve met plenty of shady rich people and I’ve met plenty of wonderful poor people. If you put people in desperate situations they will do desperate things. Who is putting people in desperate situations? Rich people are even though they are richer than ever. Look at Dick Farmer or Carl Lindner, they are class warriors that don’t work any harder than the average janitor by any means. There’s plenty of bigotry that comes from the church, just look at who support Proposition 8.
BS! Show what facts you are talking about.
Willie Cunningham-and the racist corporate media that allows him to spew his lies-likes to blame crime, welfare and immoral behavior on the poor, but the reality is that corporations get far more welfare than the poor, the commit more crime that does far more damage to society and they are generally immoral.
A corporation’s only purpose is to make money, so if that means funding death squads Chiquita will do it, if that means unsafe working conditions Cintas will do it, if that means building unsafe cars GM will do it, if that means testing cosmetics on animals or causing pollution P&G will do it. That’s why government must regulate them, but government is now owned by these corporations-which is why working people in this country have seen their living standard decrease so dramatically.
20 Nov 2008 at 02:04 pm | #
Thanks JJ. There is I will bring that up at NAACP meeting. We paid Bill a visit today (5 of us) . He wasn’t there. They said he was doing something with channel 12 community and would be there in 20 min. Anyway, I will bring that up to NAACP Executive Board, for which I am a member.
Thanks.
20 Nov 2008 at 08:17 pm | #
This seems to fit most of the people of the USA. When an American is killed in any of the wars that they started it is news. If a thousand Africans or Asians are killed it is to be expected as collateral damage.
The fact still remains that he is being paid for doing what he does and says. Logic tells me that he has a sufficient following to be paid. Do you think that silencing the man is going to change the thinking of Cunningham or his followers? If you can’t oust him for saying that “Obama wants to gas the Jews” , then all of your ranting is useless. And for you to ask me to listen to him for five minutes is over the top.
20 Nov 2008 at 08:30 pm | #
Citizens Against Joe Deters !
What in the heck are you writing about? What were you doing when they taught you how to write in school?
It is too bad that Mr. Cunningham wasn’t there to receive your group. Perhaps you should have called first. If you are on an executive board, you should have learned some executive manners.
20 Nov 2008 at 08:44 pm | #
Thanks Dean for the information about 666. If it was in the Bible, there was not a chance in hell that I would have read it. I guess one would need to be Baptist or someone similar to be invoking it. It seem strange to me that Cunningham would be invoking the Bible, but then Christians have a history of distorted thinking.
20 Nov 2008 at 11:23 pm | #
A majority of Americans oppose the war. They have to be lied to support any wars. As General Smedley Butler said, ”war is a racket”.
Or as Hermann Goering said,
“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
The truth is the stenographers in the corporate media don’t really even cover the death and injuries of Americans the way they should much less of other people. They shut out the voices of the people and the truth about the countless deaths and injuries inflicted by the bipartisan Military Industrial Congressional Complex.
20 Nov 2008 at 11:42 pm | #
dieterschmied- what do you smoke? Here’s another bible quote since you don’t read the bible--Jesus said ‘whatever you do for the least of my brothers , you do for me.’ something like that. My point being is that it is easier to blame ‘the least of them’ (least not meaning less than) then the ones who actually do the most harm Corporations, politicians, true Welfare kings, who prey on the least of them. They scream personal responsibility (and that’s great) but than do they listen to what they scream?! Not even.
21 Nov 2008 at 10:03 am | #
What Jesus are you talking about. I don’t think the one that most talk about had any brothers.
And I still don’t know what you are talking about.
21 Nov 2008 at 10:08 am | #
Justin!
You better not let Citizens_Against_JD see you quoting Goering or she will think you are praising Goering with accolades. Of course it would not matter that Goering is correct.
21 Nov 2008 at 11:45 am | #
DS. Go back to school. Talk to me when you get HS diploma, bachelors, Masters…
Writers write. Sinners sin.
21 Nov 2008 at 11:57 am | #
That was cincysuz.
21 Nov 2008 at 12:10 pm | #
Ohhhh,CS, the shit starter.....
22 Nov 2008 at 08:23 am | #
CAJD - The shit starter? You’ve got some nerve. But let me stir a little shit here and and now and comment on the most outrageous of Dieters and Cunningham’s claims: the poor lack values and ethics. Few people would be so fucking ignorant to actually put that in print.
“The morals of the poor are generally dependent on what they either can afford or want to afford. The poor lack the values, ethics and morals because they can’t afford the values, ethics and moral of the affluent.”
Definition: Greed. Greed is the selfish desire for the pursuit of money, wealth, power, food, or other possessions, especially when this denies the same goods to others. It is generally considered a vice, and is one of the seven deadly sins in Catholicism.
Now first of all, Dieters has it backwards. The rich are morally bankrupt and I feel justified in using generalizations here because Dieters and Cunningham have done just that about they call the poor.
Major problems in the U.S. and across the world rest on the shoulders of rich people, their decisions, the lack of good morals, ethics and values and the example they’ve set that others have emulated for the last 3 decades. The rich are morally bankrupt and actually proud that they won’t lift a finger on behalf of their fellow man. The rich are able with clear conscience to walk by a hungry person without a second thought. No, they do have a second thought and that thought is to have the person arrested. But generally, the rich sleep well with full knowledge that suffering is everywhere. Even though they could stop some of it, and collectively, most of it, they don’t lift a hand beyond a tax deductible donation, which is another benefit for them. Certainly nothing that would hurt their opulent lifestyle. Since they don’t acknowledge that their wealth, 90% of the time, was acquired via someone else’s labors, they don’t feel obligated to give back or pay up. They launch huge marketing campaigns to convince the rest of us that they’re giving till it hurts. A lie of course.
Greed is a moral flaw by any standard, and the rich are greedy. They can’t get enough. They’re never satisfied. And they never have consequences. It’s considered clever if they find a new way to exploit a workforce. Conspicuous consumption makes them proud, not embarassed. That’s a moral flaw. No negative consequence--on something or someone else--is too heinous in their quest for riches, be it ruining the environment, the economy, worker’s health, bringing in deadly narcotics, manufacturing guns, starting wars. The list of morally reprehensible irrevisable actions that the rich have and do perpetrate upon the earth and it’s inhabitants is unbelievable. It’s all fair game because they lack morals. Akin to sociopaths. Probably something in their upbringing or maybe in their genes. Instead of role models, children should be warned that they are pimps and parasites, to be shuned, not emulated.
Now let’s contrast that to poor people. Something I know quite a bit about. I’m not immoral, nor were most of the people in the row houses that I came up in. In fact, the giving was far beyond the scale that most could afford. We struggled. But it was a moral obligation to share. There was always another meal that could be squeezed from the pot, or a place to sleep on the couch, or a pair of shoes scrounged up for one of the kids that couldn’t go to school because he didn’t have any and the truant officer issued the last warning. And when someone lost a job or a child or got evicted, it was devastating to everyone. And there were bad people too. Violent people, drug addicts, thieves. But their actions always had consequences. They paid their price, either ending up dead or in jail--not like rich people. If the moral fibre of poor communities has changed, it’s because they have adopted the values of the rich.
People worked hard, taking care of rich folks kids and homes, working in hospitals, cleaning schools, odd jobs, factory work, anything and everything. (And some stole and sold drugs like the rich) Always paid such a low wage for such hard labor by who? The greedy immoral rich that could have put a little something in the pot and made such a difference. But the rich are immoral so they won’t. Some got help as well--food stamps, some financial help. Why not? And I’m not pining over days past, people are still willing to work hard, a few neighborhoods still exist where people care about each other--at least a few that the rich haven’t managed to drive poor people out of. And that’s another component. Stable neighborhods where people know each other are important. Those too have been negatively impacted by the rich.
In recent years, rich people invented and marketed the concept that the’re doing their part by “creating jobs.” The rich don’t create jobs. That’s what government programs like CETA and VISTA did. If the rich “created jobs” everyone that wanted a job, would have one. Here’s what the rich actually do. They begrudgingly hire the fewest people, at the lowest wage, in the worst conditions, with the least benefits allowed by law, to do the critical job necessary to keep them rich. At the first opportunity, when they’ve gotten what they need out of that worker, they lay-off, fire, or outsource the job to put an extra buck in their own pockets without thought that the worker’s lives will be devastated and that those very workers made them rich. There’s no such thing as creating jobs. The rich concocted another immoral scheme to avoid paying taxes and called it “creating jobs” then demanded to be paid for that in the form of tax exemptions or rebates or credits. Their greed knows no bounds. They actually do put some money though into hiring many people to figure out how to make them more rich. Greed is a moral flaw. The rich have acquired their wealth on the backs of poor people. Yes, there are a few exceptions, but I’m generalizing just a little about the rich because it seems to be okay with Dieters to generalize about the poor. Other people--middle class people--are also greedy, or immoral, but with less negative impact on society than the rich.
I agree with Dieters and Cunningham there is a correlation between wealth and morals. But I draw exactly the opposite conclusion. The rich have a moral flaw that allows them to either ignore or cause other human being’s suffering and feel no responsibility or moral obligation in their souls to help. If there’s a socio-economic group that has a crisis in morals, values and ethics, it’s sure as hell not the poor.
22 Nov 2008 at 10:08 am | #
Well I tried to read what cincysuz says: (22 Nov 2008 at 08:23 am | #), but it was so poorly written that I don’t know if I understood it.
I guess we are responsible for her shortcomings in the use of the English language, according to Cincysuz.
She has an apparent disdain for what she thinks is greed. Her definition is certainly unique. Bur even if we were to accept her definition of greed and her classification of greed as a moral flaw, I would suggest that she needs to partake of that moral flaw. Perhaps if she actually had a touch of greed (an actual definition: excessive desire to acquire or possess more (especially more material wealth) than one needs or deserves. )instead of laying around and wining for a handout, she might not be so poor.
22 Nov 2008 at 11:31 am | #
Dieters - You should seek some ESL tutoring and if you have a patient instructor, take your lessons seriously and study hard you may someday grasp the nuances of the English language which is so obviously not your native tongue.
I have everything I need--materially, spiritually, morally, and ethically. I sleep well because my conscience is clear, not because I don’t have one.
See if you understand this. You’re an asshole.
22 Nov 2008 at 12:24 pm | #
CS--
If being a shit starter means being a person who feels the need to protect my family, our communities, our right to democracy, our children, and “the least of them”, than I guess that’s me.
DS - CS writing (up there) is choppy. But aren’t many of us guilty of choppy writing when we write passionately about things that most concern us?
CS - Funny line at the end. Cursing or cussing is language, we all (greedy, poor, immoral, or otherwise) can understand
22 Nov 2008 at 08:53 pm | #
It doesn’t matter how much you keep playing up to me, I am not going to bed with you.
23 Nov 2008 at 08:56 am | #
Justin, weren’t there rules for commenting instituted that forbade name calling? Oh wait, never mind; Jason canceled them two weeks ago.
23 Nov 2008 at 09:59 am | #
Cite the rule I broke. I dare you.
23 Nov 2008 at 04:35 pm | #
That would be the “Golden Rule”, as well as 1, 2, & 4, of the Beacon rules for commenting.
25 Nov 2008 at 06:45 pm | #
CAJD - Focus. You called me a shit starter. I didn’t call you that. A very rude unprovoked remark. And don’t comment on others’ writing style and technique, okay?
JFD - CAJD started the name calling, not me. Though I do apologize to The Beacon for calling Dieterschmied an asshole. I won’t do it again.
Dieterschmied - A very strange response indeed. Having it pointed out that you have shown yourself to be a racist, classist, illiterate gets you thinking about sex. That’s your idea of foreplay? Maybe it’s a German thing.
Now I really don’t like stereotypes. There are stereotypes about every race, religion, ethnicity, etc. They’re hurtful and difficult to refute because everybody has a story they think supports their prejudice. Just because the village I lived in, in the Balaeric Islands, dreaded visits from German tourists doesn’t prove that German tourists are all cheap, loud, rude and disrespectful to women and local customs. Stereotypes are akin to heresay. I guess you must be aware of all the other negative stereotypes about Germans. Fat, rude, drunks, followers, incapable of independent thought, not to mention that whole holocaust thing. Really ugly stuff. Do you find those stereotypes offensive? Would those labels be hurtful to you or your children? Do you feel like they describe you? I bet you reject them, as well you should. But it’s okay to label the poor and African Americans with negative stereotypes and broad brushes, right?
25 Nov 2008 at 11:16 pm | #
The world is to large and to fast to ignore stereotypes. In other words, we don’t have time to familiarize ourselves with everyone we see. That is a luxury that wouldn’t be justified on your islands. And judging from the adjectives used to describe the Germans, it is apparent you never saw their cuddly side.
Now that you are in this country what are the differences between the Germans and the USAers. It seems that you descriptions could apply to either.
I find it strange that you dreaded visits from Germans in that the islands depends on tourists for their wealth. It would be difficult to enjoy anything but solitude from what is generated from fishing there.
If people don’t like the stereotypes applied to them, then it is up to them to change it. For instance, the frogs of Paris were stereotyped as rude and conceited ,with justification. Their attitude was costing them business and a campaign was begun to teach or train get over it. Today they are more pleasant and if it lasts, they might lose their bad image. Unfortunately they are losing a lot more to the EU, but that is another topic.
Por qué razón salió usted España. Yo pienso que los meses del invierno en este país lo harán nostálgico. Yo visité España hace unos años. Era un placer.
¿Sabe usted hay un café en Cincinnati que tiene jamón de Belota? Está en Avenida Eastern. Se llama Terry’s Surf Club. El jamón se permite ser importado ahora. Es extremadamente caro.
26 Nov 2008 at 06:23 pm | #
You’ve got it backwards again. “If people don’t like the stereotypes applied to them, it’s up to them to change it.” Ridiculous but predictable.
I’m not Spanish. I spent a good deal of time on the island of Formenteria during my free spirit citizen-of-the-world days long ago. Also I know little of the salted ham as I was a macrobiotic vegan then.